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By Patmalar Ambikapathy Thuraisingham, published 9/7/2007Does the PM intend, in accordance with Article 12 of the UNCROC, to ask the children of the Northern Territory what their views are?
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Posted by Romany, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:03:57 AM
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Sometimes it takes the worst of problems to bring about lasting solutions.
Where were you, Patmalar, when we were fighting a skirmish in a battle for human, especially children's, rights in 2003? Young people I know of wanted advocacy, and still need it. Children are the single largest minority group in Australia to have their human rights denied every day, and as a result, they are constantly abused. Many want us to believe we have human rights and can hand over control and all our power to government. This is in the forlorn belief that government will fix all our problems. Yet we know that government is not capable of doing that, and cannot and should not be entrusted with such responsibility, because it comes to individuals to live in ways that suit them. Then, we expect all individuals to be assertive, to know and stand up for their rights and be heard, for governments to support their expressed needs. Adults are so accustomed to doing things to and for children, they overlook how capable children can be, when they’re empowered. Like Patmalar's 5 year old client, young people are intelligent, whole people who do have a voice and can express their needs, if they have the opportunity, are respected and listened to in a safe supportive environment. Some young people in Queensland in 2003 decided they would have a child psychologist speak with them to determine if they really could communicate their needs effectively. This was only to counter demeaning, false claims of government appointed bureaucrats. Neither the psychologist's report nor a poignant, intelligent submission initiated and written by young people to a Minister (nor submissions by parents nor claims of the denials of many human rights) were responded to. The issue of alleged abuse against indigenous children is sickening. They must have the opportunity to be heard, and their needs listened to, in a safe environment. How can an environment be safe for indigenous Australians, so that they develop self-respect and take responsibility for themselves? Posted by Derek@Booroobin, Monday, 9 July 2007 12:59:32 PM
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patmalar - thank you for this cogent and timely critique of the current 'plan' (which appears to change daily - viz there will be compulsory medical checks for child abuse; there will be compulsory medical checks for 'everything'; there will be compulsory medical checks for 'everything' - except child abuse; there will be compulsory medical checks for 'everything' except child abuse and for child abuse 'only' where 'indicated' - whatever that means). thank you also for positive suggestions as to a constructive, united approach.
undoubtedly, the current 'plan' will give rise not only to political abuse of children (and communities) but also to the need for legal representation and recognition of children as humanbeings with rights. as pointed out in the article, it is astounding that it has taken until 2007 to have recognised that children are entitled to independent representation in children's court proceedings. 'guidelines' of legal aid bodies (such as the victorian legal aid commission - hitherto astonishingly accepted as 'right' by the children's court) need to be changed to recognise that children are entitled to representation not only in the family court, and that 'guidelines' that breach this right are discriminatory and unlawful. Posted by jocelynne, Monday, 9 July 2007 1:17:24 PM
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I have worked with indigenous Australians who were aware of and enjoyed their human rights and democratic values of justice, fairness, equity, trust, respect, freedom and responsibility. Along with other young Australians, young indigenous people flourished in a democratic education environment where they were empowered and supported in their preparation for life as effective, independent adults. This is the promise of democracy in the wider society that’s not generally fulfilled.
In actions symptomatic of the pious, paternalistic attitudes of the Queensland Government to children and parents, government denied permission to the people in that democratic learning community to make informed decisions and exercise their human rights. I’ve listened but can’t imagine the sufferings of many indigenous people over successive generations. If, however, they are reflected just in the tiniest way by the oppressive actions of this State government to deny human rights, then it is easy to empathise with indigenous children whose human rights are both denied and who also suffer physical abuse. There are many people who care, are prepared to listen, support and empower individuals and groups with the right, responsibility and ability to make informed decisions and choices. At some point, earlier rather than later, people need to take individual and collective responsibility and not only find their own solutions, but also maintain and manage those solutions. The ability to access fair, equitable justice is part of the solution. Real and restorative justice appears to have been absent from the lives of many indigenous Australians. Successive Australians governments have ratified Conventions, Treaties and Covenants comprising International Human Rights Law. 16 years ago, the Keating Labor Government ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Ratification was a nice, feel good thing to do. But it was all words and no action. A generation of young people has been born, and almost reached adulthood without their human rights being legislated. The Keating Government failed, like the government since, to follow through and legislate and guarantee those rights, and enable recourse and remedies to be sought in a competent Court when their human rights are denied and abused. Posted by Derek@Booroobin, Monday, 9 July 2007 2:14:29 PM
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Patmalar,
Sorry mate but there is no such thing as bipartisan when it comes to politics in Australia. Whoops, forgot the one topic they do all agree on. Their perks and income. That's bipartisan. Conscience at work there alright. As to the issue of child welfare and saefty? Neither Party cares. Howard has picked this as a wedge issue and it has failed. It will eat him alive as he has no good intent. As you say, if he did he would have said at least a couple of words during his 33 years in Parliament about this issue. Wouldn't ya think? Just a word or two. The only emergency is the polls and the forthcoming election. Rudd offers bipartisan agreement but he doesn't mean it. He's just using Beasley's failed strategy of small target. The way it's looking it's going to be a drover's dog election. You and I could lead Labor to vicory Patmalar, if we lowered ourselves enough to join either of these dreadful organisations. You'd probably be aware the Peter Beattie called an election in QLD based on almost the identical problem, but for all QLD kids the election before last. It too was an emergency. And guess what? It still is as nothing has changed. And it won't until we have a genuine leader willing to consult and act in time with the indigenous people rather than pounce on a report, make up some recommendations that weren't in it and send in the troops. perhaps he thinks it's Iraq? My only explanation really as what he's doing makes no sense. Posted by DavoP, Monday, 9 July 2007 4:43:59 PM
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And we will not be discussing this on line after few months..thats the silence that kills, maims and abuses.
Howard's intervention is clearly politically motivated, and he wants us to believe that conservative moral positivists like him never had rock spiders in their family tree.. One by one, our children need us all to care and to act on their behalf...but remember that if we leave it up to politicians...we get a political strategy.. Posted by Rainier, Monday, 9 July 2007 5:41:43 PM
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Mr Howard forgets the thousands of Australian children who are in out of home care because of abuse which takes many forms. This Government gives token commitment to "Strengthening Families" but continues to avoid the real issues. Intelligent Australians see his latest move on indigenous children as yet another election ploy.
Until changes are made so that the care and protection of children ceases to be a political football between the States, Territories and the Federal Government, thousands more children will be victims. Children of a young age in our society are articulate and able to express themselves - leaders refuse to accept this as there is no political advantage for them. These abused children from whatever background are part of the future of this country. It is time they were heard and their needs met. Posted by Narelle, Monday, 9 July 2007 7:50:46 PM
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I see a lot about political motives and rights, for starters who cares about motives FINALLY some strong action has been taken, run with it not against it.
Rights? It is my understanding this catch all phrase has been more of a problem then a reality, WHAT ABOUT THE VICTUMS RIGHTS? Hello is anybody out there listening. And quite frankly as far as the past ASTIC leaders and the LAND RIGHTS COUNCIL they have done nothing that would even remotely qualify themselves as community leaders. I have two addittions that might help the normalisation process; 1 Spread it accross the board. 2 Take note of all those opposing and strip them of all assests they have callously gained from their vested interests and then deport the bums to places that don't care about anybody let alone children. And just for the record my experience runs from the Tamini across and up to the tip of Cape York and beyond. Posted by noreeblue, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 10:04:04 AM
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NT child abuse figures 'not a stand out'
Posted Fri Jul 6, 2007 5:36pm AEST The co-author of a Commonwealth commissioned child protection report says sex abuse figures for Indigenous children in the Northern Territory are among the lowest in Australia. Diedre Penhaligon from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare confirmed Indigenous children in suburban Victoria are more at risk than those in the Territory. Ms Penhaligan says over the last few years the number of child sex abuse reports has risen across Australia, but says the Territory figures are not a stand-out. "It's certainly possible that the Northern Territory may have been maybe a bit unfairly targeted compared to other jurisdictions," she said. "It's a problem in every jurisdiction." "If we look at the Northern Territory about 4 per cent of all substantiated cases of child abuse and neglect were for sexual abuse in Indigenous children. "But for other children, that is people who haven't identified as being Indigenous, it is actually 9 per cent and that's a pretty consistent finding across all the jurisdictions." Earlier, a Melbourne University Professor claimed child-sex abuse was five-times more prevalent in Melbourne suburbs. source>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/06/1972244 Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:21:47 AM
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Ok, I admit that I gained great respect for Patmalar Ambikapathy being a Barrister to speak out as she did. In fact It was very pleasing to me that here we have a barrister doing so.
I am not a lawyer but a “CONSTITUTIONALIST”, an Attorney, and Author of books regarding certain constitutional and other legal issues in the INSPECTOR-RIKATI® series and have canvassed matters extensively. Sure, there is a considerable sexual abuse going on, but that is not just in regard of Aboriginal children. Since 1982 I have conducted a special lifeline service under the motto MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL® and assisted many in Family Court matters, at times on request of a judge to assist an unrepresented person, and I will spare you the gory details but can assure you that it is raging also outside Aboriginal communities. It serve no purpose to unconstitutionally and so illegally do a SHOCK & AWE upon Aboriginal communities as more then likely the backlash as we experienced in Iraq likewise will eventuate in those communities. If we desire to attack the issue of child abuse then it must be done respecting the victims rights above all. We do not do so if we use it as to rob Aboriginals of their land! Also, no matter how good intentions anyone may have, if it is unconstitutional then it is and never must be acceptable. After all, where does the government then stop with acting unconstitutionally? Consider also that the Federal Government has indicated to dictate those receiving social security how they are permitted to spend their monies, and not just Aboriginals. As such also people on old age pensions. Next the Federal Government might indicate where you are to purchase your groceries, etc. Come on, the Commonwealth of Australia has no constitutional powers to interfere with a persons liberty, social life, etc. This is for the States/Territories to deal with. I have posted material on my blog at http://au.360.yahoo.com/profile-ijpxwMQ4dbXm0BMADq1lv8AYHknTV_QH On this blog it also has a correspondence to Noel Pearson and how to appropriately address the issue. Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 1:28:44 AM
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And further;
Few if any lawyer/politician/judge is aware that in fact the European Human Rights provisions are also applicable in the Commonwealth of Australia provided it does not clash with constitutional provisions. This is because all British law, other then constitutional laws are subject to the European Human Rights provisions. As we are constitutionally under British law (forget the legal nonsense about not being so) the only exclusion is any law enacted within Subsection 51(xxvi), as this subsection specifically provides for racism/discrimination and the European Union and neither any treaty can override the fact that the commonwealth of Australia is a “racist” “political union” as endorsed by all colonies (now States). As my blog indicate however, what the Federal Government seeks to do is neither as such permissible within its constitutional powers of Subsection 51(xxvi) or as a “sovereign” of the Northern Territory within Section 122 of the Constitution! I am looking forwards when lawyers finally will confront the Federal Government with this! Likewise the land-grab of Aboriginal communities would as such be unconstitutional as the only way it can be permitted to grab the land of Aboriginals is to enact legislation within Section 51(xxvi) to take the land of all Aboriginals, regardless if they are perhaps doctors/lawyers/judges/politicians. As the Framers of the Constitution made clear Subsection 51(xxvi) could not be used to target specific people but was limited to be used to a specific “coloured race” and then must be against “all persons” of the race. Hence, lawyers who own properties might just discover that if the land can be taken from Aboriginal communities in the NT then their homes, etc can be taken regardless if they live in Melbourne, Sydney or where ever. Again I have posted material on my blog at http://au.360.yahoo.com/profile-ijpxwMQ4dbXm0BMADq1lv8AYHknTV_QH Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 1:44:54 AM
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Childhood molestation is still the most hidden of all crimes in our society. Those who do come forward are often inarticulate, powerless and easily intimidated. And, let us not forget also, that those who do come forward are often victims of a legal system which does not help them.
The community spends so much time and effort discrediting impersonal statistics, trying to put the blame on whichever section of society their personal beliefs cause them to demonise (liberals, the unemployed, aborigines, feminists, lefties, misogynist men, etc) and comfortably putting the issue to the back of their minds when they are not fulminating upon it, that the matter is never exposed for the the horror that it is.
I agree wholeheartedly with this article - and the point made about the numbers who are affected constituting a pandemic is one I have consistently used myself. One or two cases of bird flu sends Australia into a panic. Thousands of children living in terror does not?
On this forum alone people have admitted to having been victims and spoken of the scars they carry. I once recounted an anecdote of sitting with three total strangers one day, and all of us eventually finding we shared this legacy. Between us 17 (yes seventeen) perpetrators were uncovered - not one of whom was ever brought to justice. Yet this shameful fact was never commented on except, in another post, to throw doubt upon my veracity.
People are encouraged to pledge support to a little child in Africa or elsewhere. If every person over the age of 18 in Australia who has been molested stood up to be counted and pledged support to help, we would have a groundswell of support that could not be ignored and the plight of children, not only of the Northern Territory, but Australia-wide, could no longer be ignored in the courts or in society.