Climate change HAS already happened Alzo, you think hoWARd would be mumbling green if there was absolutely any doubt? -25% arctic sea ice cover, melting glaciers, warming and more acidic oceans, hurricanes where there've never been seen before, whales and dolphins from the Mediterranean now found off the north of Scotland, extreme weather putting insurance industry permanantly in the red..

Back to the book, bought it last week only half read and its excellent, hair raising .. corruption in Australian politics? "don't you worry about that young girly" (as Joh Bjelke told Jana Vendt more than a decade ago, but not much has changed).

"you think hoWARd would be mumbling green if there was absolutely any doubt?"
I think Howard has no doubt that its a complete crock. He is only mumbling green because the electorate wants to see something being done.

0.6 degrees centigrade over more than a century hardly calls for war crimes you galahs.

"hurricanes where there've never been seen before"...examples?
"extreme weather putting insurance industry permanantly in the red"...a company name?