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Peak coal: sooner than you think : Comments

By Richard Heinberg, published 21/5/2007

Two new reports deliver a shocking message: coal will be running out much sooner than we think.

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michael_in_adelaide: The parallel is here in “A Climate of fear”

http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/paranoid-planet/2007/03/17/1174080219538.html

Others may guess I’m not a Ray Evans fan nor have any affiliation with the HR Nicholls Society

Hey Y2K is back!
Posted by Taz, Monday, 21 May 2007 1:06:19 PM
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Hey Y2K is back!
Posted by Taz,

I wish.
Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 21 May 2007 2:16:43 PM
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michael_in_adelaide the credibility of the source goes a long way towards explaining the validity of the data. Considering the link in the article which goes to the website www.energywatchgroup.org which is a front for the company Solarpraxis AG, which flogs renewable energy technologies. Does it ever cross your mind to question the validity of your sources? If not, why not quote from the bible? It probably has some "data" in there somewhere.

Also consider the man who writes the article. He is from the "New College of California".

Their Mission Statement is:
New College of California is committed to education in support of a just, sacred, and sustainable world. We cherish intellectual freedom, the search for social justice, respect for differences, and a belief in collective responsibility for the welfare of all people.

All sounds very touch feely doesn't it. They don't like science to get in the way of a big group hug.

He is also a Fellow of the Post Carbon Institute. Hmm and you wonder why I question your/his sources.

Real scientists actually try not to have a preconceived idea of the results before they begin. These charlatans begin a study with "I am going to find anything that backs my assertion that peak coal is about to strike". What did he find? Two whole reports, one of which isn't even published. When I say published, I use this term very loosely as the internet doesn't count as publishing.

In short, both cited publications are from questionable organisations. Touted by the very questionable author. Championed by the lost sheep michael.
Posted by alzo, Monday, 21 May 2007 2:27:14 PM
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I suggest you read that link more carefully Taz especially the last paragraph.
Maybe YK2 didn't happen because of all the measures put in place to prevent it.
We will never know and even if we did, the naysayers would still believe what they wanted to, no matter what proof to the contary.
Posted by alanpoi, Monday, 21 May 2007 3:04:13 PM
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My watch died due to a 2Yk problem. At work critical matters in many applications were not addressed for y2k they would have failed. There seems to be a fair amount of ad hominen attack rather than reasoned debate. If it was crap it is surely easy to debunk by an informed critic
Posted by Richard, Monday, 21 May 2007 3:32:26 PM
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I wonder if it has ever dawned on these Europlodders that the reason no-one has bothered updating their data on coal reserves for a few decades is that there is so much of it already out there that the smart operators stopped looking for the %&*$# stuff years ago.

Gosh, no more coal in Wales, must be a global crisis.

But don't mind me fellas. As Pink Floyd might have said,
"And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too,
you'll find some coal on the dark side of the moon".
Posted by Perseus, Monday, 21 May 2007 3:37:24 PM
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