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'Trust me - I'm from the Opposition' : Comments

By Graham Ring, published 23/4/2007

Another ALP Indigenous affairs policy soufflé has floated gently to earth: it smells tasty enough but offers very little to chew on.

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Another extravagantly pious & condescending article from the infinitely superior & omniscient Graham Ring. How unusual. How lucky Australia is, to have his wisdom placed before it.
Posted by Dan Fitzpatrick, Monday, 23 April 2007 8:39:45 PM
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There is one thing and one thing wrong with this or any Indigenous affairs policy, the policy itself.

Just like multiculturism it has pushed these people into a group and what for votes nothing more.

When the government start treating them as australian then thing will change and change quickly.

www.tapp.org.au
Posted by tapp, Monday, 23 April 2007 8:50:02 PM
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Kevin Rudd has been very careful thus far to say NOTHING unattractive at all ! This is going to be a very hard Act to maintain all the way to election day! In a normal distribution of voter opinions on this issue, knock off the outliers, which might be indigenous people themselves on the one hand, and radical right wing zealots on the other, one would be hardpressed to find many Australians who are not both highly supportive of our aboriginal people, and hugely frustrated at their inability to grasp the rope and pull themselves out of the cess-pit they claim they are in. Living in the wrong place with limited access to health services, education and employment wears a bit thin about three generations down the track .......
See also my comments under the Indigenous Health item.
Posted by DRW, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 10:16:23 AM
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so, you read a paper from a politician and say, "it seems fatuous, fuzzy, and familiar." mate, if you listen to ducks, expect quacking.

instead of being sardonic, how about 3oo words on "what should be done?"

to be fair, no one cares what you think- you're not the minister. in an oligarchy, only the minister's opinion matters.
Posted by DEMOS, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 10:23:59 AM
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Graham, I think it very disappointing that on what I consider one of the most important moral issues facing Australia- the lives that our First Australians seem condemned to live - your article only gets four comments, and apart from DRW these offer little to the debate.

But I think the fault does lie partly in your original article. It is easy to criticise a draft document, but the crucial thing is what kind of policy would (1) Actually address the real issues and (2) Gain public support (because without that it is just white man dreaming)

I don’t think these are opposing positions. Australians are in general both practical and good natured people. What Australians find most frustrating is that despite all the goodwill, all the money, and the Reconciliation Walk across Sydney Harbour Bridge, the situation of the First Australians has not changed and in fact seems to be getting worse.

To me the major figure addressing these issues in the public domain is Noel Pearson (see his article in the Ausralian, 21-22 April, 2007)and what I would really like to see is you engaging in his debate on combining Rights with Responsibilities and seeing the “victim” mentality as, despite being a reality, something that has to be overcome. As an Australian with a European ancestry and, I hope a moral sensitivity, what I would love to see is a vigorous debate by Indigenous people (who from my experiene are also full of goodwill)on the part Governments could play in changing these deplorable conditions. Over to you! Posted by Ian Keese Contact:(review@isaa.org.au)
Posted by Ian K, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 2:29:51 PM
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Ian K is right, but to characterise the Ring article as 'criticism' is being too tolerant. It is simply ridicule. Why should we bother trying to engage with a smartarse who places himself so far above normal human debate, and who infers bad faith on the part of those who lack his apparent intelligence or simply disagree with him?
Posted by Dan Fitzpatrick, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 8:37:05 PM
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The manner of the article deserves the criticism. I was disappointed with the lack of an indigenous policy in Rudd's Address to the Canberra
press gallery. Perhaps the author based his article on this?
If Rudd's, to be and end all, this is a public failure, and he address it, and with pacifics.
fluff
Posted by fluff4, Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:52:16 PM
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Good piece Ringy, and yes indeed, I too wonder if these are once again just the usual symbolic hyperbole i.e, wonderfully wrapped (and yet empty) presents placed under the Labor party's policy tree and labelled "for the aborigines'. (do not let them open it until after the election under any circumstances)

If the Ruddernaut falls over the line we’ll be invited to open them up and I suspect all they will enclose are hand written notes saying;

• “Take some responsibility and if you’re not naughty aborigines we’ll think about giving you some rights’

• “What? you expected some detailed policy?” “You cheeky black bastards!

Love Uncle Noel Pearson and Aunty Jenny Macklin.
Posted by Rainier, Friday, 27 April 2007 4:57:24 PM
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In other words - The only interest the ALP has in Indigenous issues is to make sure they don’t lose redneck votes - by being seen to be soft on blacks. Their only policy prescription they dare fly is that blacks have [=are] problems and they’re gonna fix em.

Absolution guarantees all round / writ large.

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Posted by Rainier, Friday, 27 April 2007 5:11:00 PM
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