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Defining poverty and the things that matter in life ... : Comments

By Anne Hampshire, published 13/4/2007

Poverty, or the failure to share in the prosperity of a nation, is not just about a lack of material goods.

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Hey Shonga,
I appreciate your passion.
Are you homeless? No?
Why is that? Some decisions made, perhaps?
I'm not delusional, sir. I'm a realist.
Ask any of these homeless people who's responsible for their plight and they'll blame someone else. No accountability. OK? Clear? Good. Don't talk nonsense. As I said in my previous post I am only too happy to help those prepared to help themselves.
Redistibrute the wealth? Solirawity bruvver!LOL
What a bunch of outdated socialist clap-trap! In 5-10 years it would all be back to square one. And you know, the ones without would again blame the ones with!
Sorry but I don't subscribe to your views.
Posted by tRAKKA, Thursday, 19 April 2007 8:38:25 AM
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I'd like to see the actual questionaires as proffered to the participants in this exercise. An addendum to the article perhaps?

Rereading Ross Gittins' article, and noting the methodology used in the survey, I'm not surprised by the results; Lists of essentials, tabulated in descending order, and with the empty precision of statistics. It's one thing to wish for these things, hence the parallel response; but it's quite another to be so preoccupied with survival that priorities don't allow for such frivolity.
Those who implemented this should be very concerned, rather than be placated by the response.

Poverty too is increasingly now a police matter.
That is this Nation's preferred response to society's ills.
Posted by clink, Thursday, 19 April 2007 2:19:18 PM
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tRAKKA,
The old saying that "The worker is his own worst enemy" is still true, still protecting the billionaires believing one day they will become one..ha,ha,ha,...I probably have more material stuff than you do, what seperates us is that I remember where I came from, and realise that there are still many families left behind, it has a word, no not selfishness, that's you, the word is compassion for your fellow man, which you seriously lack.
Posted by SHONGA, Thursday, 19 April 2007 4:04:49 PM
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Shonga,

Spoken like a true socialist, or given your "material" statements more like a "Balmain basket weaver". (Consider that statement for a moment. If it were true, you've hoarded whilst knowingly leaving "...many families..""..behind...". And you have the hide to call me selfish!HELLO!)

People don't get left behind, they just don't keep up. It's a choice. What seperates those who do change their circumstance from those who don't? Desire for change and work ethic, that's what.

You call me selfish. The people I've stewarded don't think so. They're as grateful as I am to the one who guided and encouraged me.

You don't even stop to consider that a greater disposable income allows greater benevolence to "...your fellow man...".
You assume that it's all for me. IN-CO-RRECT. Home truth. I have no success unless I help make others successful. OK?

YOU lack compassion to your fellow man.
YOU reinforce their belief that they can do no better.
YOU give them no cause to question their own beliefs about their own abilities.
YOU are being selfish by not being ALL that you could be and extending a helping hand to the"...many families left behind...".
Challenge yourself, I dare you. Or do you have a really heavy TV schedule?
Posted by tRAKKA, Thursday, 19 April 2007 5:47:48 PM
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tRAKKA,
I think that you are being a little unfair. You are right in saying that people need to believe in themselves and their ability to change their circumstances. But these beliefs have to be met with real reward for hard work. Many people feel as though it doesn't matter what they do and how hard they try that they are running on a treadmill sweating heavily and getting no-where. Some (maybe even most) have reached the conclusion that a heavy television schedule is far more rewarding than working hard chasing carrots that move away the closer they get to them. Many people (not all) have given up trying. Those who have succeeded (and this offcourse depends on how we measure success)are often the social exception. None the less, we need to teach people to believe that they can achieve if they work hard and then - MAKE IS SO.
Posted by vivy, Thursday, 19 April 2007 6:02:09 PM
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tRAKKA,
I think that you are being a little unfair. You are right in saying that people need to believe in themselves and their ability to change their circumstances. But these beliefs have to be met with real reward for hard work. Many people feel as though it doesn't matter what they do and how hard they try that they are running on a treadmill sweating heavily and getting no-where. Some (maybe even most) have reached the conclusion that a heavy television schedule is far more rewarding than working hard chasing carrots that move away the closer they get to them. Many people (not all) have given up trying. Those who have succeeded (and this offcourse depends on how we measure success)are often the social exception. None the less, we need to teach people to believe that they can achieve if they work hard and then - MAKE IT SO.
Posted by vivy, Thursday, 19 April 2007 6:02:32 PM
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