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Apportioning the blame : Comments

By Brett Bowden, published 14/2/2007

For all the concerns over Barack Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience, it seems he has the edge over John Howard when it comes to the realities of Iraq.

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The republicans made a similar claim about John Kerry & the democrats prior to the 2004 election. Apart from the absurdity of calling the democrats the terrorist's party of choice, it's worth examining whether terrorist groups actually have a preference.

So the CIA had a look. Their conclusion was that, if anything, George W Bush had unwittingly done more for their (terrorist's) cause than any other single person or group could hope for. Survey after survey shows Iraqis believe the presence of US troops is responsible for more violence than anything else.

Terrorist numbers have skyrocketed since. Still are.
Posted by bennie, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 3:22:05 PM
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Senator Obama does certainly have the "edge over John Howard". The edge of defeat.

See--http://www.con.observationdeck.org
Posted by Themistocles, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 4:47:41 PM
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Good heavens, Thermistocles. This writer describes George W as a statesman, carrying the future of the planet on his "churchillian" shoulders. "The defeat of Hussein will lead to the defeat of global terrorism and to all rogue states." And so on.

Can't you find someone a little less, say, rabid?
Posted by bennie, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 5:03:31 PM
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Theremis,
Do all raving red neck warmongers think like you, or you an exception to the rule. The conservatives hypocritically call for peace, by blowing the heads of innocent women and children.

It gets the U.S. war machine going, killing people, no WMD'S no SADDAM, THE IRAQ'S, can now sort out something that had it been left alone, and the war concerntrated in Afganistan were the Taliban were/are wreaking havoc, and training terrorists we could have spendt the $2B from the senseless IRAQ war on health and education in our our country, where it is badly needed.
Posted by SHONGA, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 7:19:36 PM
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Poor Johnnie must have been asleep not to realise that Obama would request Howard to put his army where his mouth is... Onya Johnnie - How does your foot taste?

Now Johnnie is announcing that a "strategic withdrawal" is a defeat! Congratulations again Johnnie.... Our troups must be thrilled with that comment! A strategic withdrawal is exactly that a strategic withdrawal - it's not a defeat!

Why don't you put on a uniform and go march up and down the streets of Baghdad... Johnnie... Your brilliant war mind is needed in places other than Australia. Can you please explain at which stage we will have "won hearts and minds"?

Whilst you are at it can you please explain your vision of a legal system that allows falsified intelligence misused by Governments to invade another country? Isn't this illegal - falsifying evidence? Is killing innocent people in an illegal war a war crime?

If we can say that a country has WMD's and are linked to terrorists when no evidence exists and then be a part of the invasion force does this mean that others could use that tactic on us? Precedence is very important in law... and haven't the Bush, Blair & Howard camp set the precedent?

Many people in this country take oaths of office - How many people are not doing what they are sworn to do under Australian and International law regarding the falsified evidence we were presented with?
Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:09:26 PM
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The most important thing that has happened this last couple of days is that Labor has become a favourite with the bookies. Centrebet now has Labour odds on at $1.70 compared to the coalition on $1.80. Whilst odds can change between now and election day, the bookies are rarely wrong. This is the first time in many many years that the Government has been behind in the odds. This has been a watershed week for Rudd and Labor federally.
Posted by seaweed, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:10:14 PM
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