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Croatians and Serbians: don’t become victims of past hatred : Comments
By Mirko Bagaric, published 22/1/2007Paradoxically, despite the animosity between Croats and Serbs, culturally and historically there is far more that unites than separates them.
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Although noise is a prelude to violence ONLINE_EAST rightfully noticed the question remains why none but young Australians from Serbian and Croatian descents were affected only?
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 24 January 2007 12:11:00 AM
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Whatever the history, there are some latent tensions between tribes in Australia - not limited to Serbs and Croats. A noise/verbal assault is enough to bring it to the surface.
What is needed is to never hear the word multiculturalism again - at least the office was officially dumped yesterday by Howard, apparently. Ban all the foreign flags, languages, dress, music, chants in public. Follow the Tunisian government and start ripping off hijabs. A monoculture is the only answer. That's the only way to stop Australia splintering. In a multicultural/multiracial melting pot all the foreign faces, languages, smells, dress and flags are visual assault at some level. Enough of "celebrating" this crap. Here's the sequence of escalation: 1. Visual assault (foreign flags, dress, language, smells, etc) 2. Verbal/Noise assault 3. Physical assault The only way Australia is going to survive is to proactively police steps 1 & 2 with zero tolerance on: - visual uniformity - noise/verbal assaults We really do need to go over-the-top on monocultural civility, to keep all the tensions (that may never go away) under control so that: - we all look reasonably similar and act the same - we act civilised around each other As much as I hate to quote her ... One Nation. (angry because I just saw the Granville Boys' video) Posted by online_east, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 4:56:30 PM
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There is a very informative article by Mr. P.Mulvey in The Age, 23 January-2007,p. News-5, "Racist or cool? Music fans differ on waiving the flag ".
Bearing his publication in mind for sharing it with the Forum had found an electronic version: http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/to-flag-or-not-opinion-is-divided/2007/01/22/1169330830829.html Although its worldwide Internet-assessable features were as understood altered -title was provided as "To flag or not? Option is divided" and a very same context was partitioned as well, a very constituent passage is left intact: "There was just a really, really horrible mentality," the 19-year-old said. "People were wearing the Australian flag and were a bit racist. There was a group of Middle Eastern people sitting down and they went up to them and said 'You're not Australians." Therefore, playing a "One Nation" card is not synonymous to really creating a melting pot of a one nation, where possibilities to gain profession and being employed depend on personal merits rather than on inherited particular biological clan's privileges. Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 24 January 2007 8:24:31 PM
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Come on, those young Australian born Croats, Serbs, and Greeks, who all speak perfect English, were chanting with accents!
Any white Australian who went to a multicultural school in Sydney's west will remember that Italians, Yugoslavs, Asians, Lebanese, all sat with only their own kind, with the few Australians (my school had about two Aussies per class of thirty) in between all the ethnic hatreds, wondering what was going on. Cops were called up to stop gangs of Lebanese fighting Asians, Serbs dominated at my school so only a handful of Croats even went there, and it was just the Aussies without a herd, or pack, mentality. It comes from their parents, they talk of old hatreds, but what alternative is there when self-hating leftists portray "Austraya" as a racist backwater. How many people know that the so-called White Australia Policy was only a diction test, to speak English? How many know that lots of our Chinese came during this time, ones who do speak a da language? How many people know that racist policies exist in EVERY Asian nation? Australia is one of, along with north-western European nations, the U.S, Canada, and N.Z, the most tolerant nations on earth. But, again, because we imported those from racist cultures on mass, they stick together and stew in their ethnic hatreds. And those academic departments don't help, by constantly portraying this paradise as racist. Well, yes, parts of Sydney are racist indeed. In fact, in some parts, just as it is in L.A and other slum holes, whites can be bashed for simply being in their territory (i.e, which is why we see the Lebanese flag on our map with words "Under New Management"), territorial madnesses from intolerant cultures. "Bashing Aussies is what we do" any of you heard the song yet? Do you know there are thousands of such race hate videos on You Tube by Lebanese Muslims? The idea of these thugs thinking they'll be running Australia is a laugh. They are so incompetant they don't even own their own country, Syria does! Posted by Benjamin, Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:45:57 PM
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"Sociologists will be puzzled for decades ... given the relative harmoniousness within which Serbs and Croatians integrate in their respective homelands."
Another factor could be "multicultural hypersensitivity" (I just made that up). Sydney, I believe, has some 200 nations represented through migrants. Melbourne I guess is similar. This increasing strain on the "youthful yearning for cultural identity" perhaps makes them over-sensitive to any differences. They are pulled in so many cultural directions, they probably end up jacking the whole lot and over-reacting. Maybe they are just so tired of the diversity freak-show (with respect to the beauty of each within its own kind). They indulge the "celebrate diversity" party line, find its just a painful illusion, and return to their own kind - but now with decreased tolerance and a vigilant identity mindset. Robert Putnam, Harvard political scientist: ""In the presence of diversity," said Putnam, "we hunker down. We act like turtles. The effect of diversity is worse than had been imagined. And it's not just that we don't trust people who are not like us. In diverse communities we don't trust people who look like us" ... Welcome to the Brave New World our elites are creating for our children" http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52531 This all assumes that "their respective homelands" are not melting pots like Australia. And this yesterday: "A GROWING sense of English national identity has led to a significant decline in feelings of Britishness over the past decade, a report published today reveals." http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=122122007 Cometh the turtles ... Posted by online_east, Thursday, 25 January 2007 6:15:08 PM
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"How many people know that the so-called White Australia Policy was only a diction test, to speak English?" - tell in a topic on Australian citizenship test, Benjamin.
I feel your post provocative rather than stupid. Speaking of "they will run our country", kids you had been at school with reflected "tolerance" their parents were more experienced WITH Posted by MichaelK., Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:13:29 PM
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