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Christmas and Eid thoughts among the cane toads : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 3/1/2007

The things that unite Muslims and Christians are far greater in number and importance than those which divide.

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Yes, there are very many similarities. However, there are huge theological differences between the Koran and Bible's view of Jesus. Here's just a few:

Bible: Jesus = Son of God, the very nature of God, and the Word of God.
Koran: Jesus = son of Mary (only) and it is an unforgiveable sin (shirk) to call him equal with God, or God's son.

Bible: Jesus voluntarily died for mankind and was risen on the third day.
Koran: Jesus wasn't crucified and therefore not resurrected.

Bible: Jesus will come back to judge the world and take with Him all who accept Him as their Lord and Saviour.
Koran/Hadith: Jesus will return to convert people to Islam and break all crosses, judge people by Koran, get married and have 7 sons, be buried next to Muhammad's grave.

Bible: Salvation is only possible through faith in the Jesus Christ and the substitutionary atonement of the Cross. It is forgiveness of sins, and reconciliation with God.
Koran: Salvation is possible through good works and not guaranteed- it is up to Allah whether you will be saved or not. It is not so much forgiveness as escape from hell.
Posted by YngNLuvnIt, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:17:18 AM
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Interesting question that I have not seen answered or even addressed in this context - and it is merely put up for discussion and not for any antagonistic purpose. Is there not a fundamental conflict between Christianity and Islam because a core tenet of Islam is that Christ is not what Christianity holds, the son of, and an aspect of, God? Is Islam not based upon a belief that Christianity would regard as blasphemy - that Christ was/is not God?
How do we resolve this fundamental conflict?
Posted by Plaza-Toro, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:31:53 AM
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Greetings Irfan.
Why Abraham? He heard God's voice ordering him to kill his son and proceeded to so do. It was no credit to A that he didn't succeed.
Now those who hear voices are often schizophrenics and those who deliberately kill innocent people are called murderers.

Though A had scant regard for the life of his son he had a highly developed sense of self-preservation as he twice passed off his wife as his sister to save his skin.

Abraham as portrayed in the Bible is a deluded human being lacking a sense of morality.

He is no role model.
Posted by fdixit, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:42:52 AM
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Sounds a nice way to appease many to pretend that there is more than one way to God. It takes away the necessity for us to face our sin and acknowledge that Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Lets face it if we could find another way to have our sins forgiven Jesus would not of needed (or chosen) to die the horrible death that He did.

People can believe, not believe or label Christ and His followers as lunies if they like. Jesus however does not afford us the luxury of trying to find common ground between light and darkness.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 2:56:22 PM
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Irfan what you write must look nice to the gullible but as I have said previously pagan death-loving islam has NOTHING AT ALL in common with the teachings of the Son of God who lived on earth as a Jewish male a descendant of Abraham by SARAH not the other woman called Hagar.
I do think that you are guilty of using "taqiyya and/or kitman" or holy? hypocrisy on the foolish who go along with the garbage you pen.
In operational terms taqiyya and kitman allows the mujahadeen or any muslim to assume whatever identity was necessary to fulfil their mission.
According to Christian ethics lying is a sin; in islamic jurisprudence and theology the use of taqiyya against unbelievers is regarded as a virtue and religious duty.
Now the gullible 'bleeding hearts' will accuse me of religious intolerance or worse, but so-what! Regards, numbat
Posted by numbat, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 3:52:00 PM
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forgot to click the box below, Regards numbat
Posted by numbat, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 4:09:42 PM
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