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Rudd puts a different kind of economic future on the cards : Comments

By Nicholas Gruen, published 22/12/2006

Kevin Rudd’s penchant for that old Christian standard of doing well by doing good could be a formidable political weapon.

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Congrats Nicholas- yes - Kevin's message is well on the right track. Happy Christmas to you both.

From a middle-roader looking for fair play.

George C - WA
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 22 December 2006 12:27:03 PM
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Isnt this great.
How long did it take the labor spindoctors to find this, and make it happen.

It is a shame that the people only believe that either liberal or labor can promote change, and this in itself is like labors policy's that we have been told about but nowhere to be seen.

When we the people stand and say this is wrong, when we say oh not another pollie being shipped into our electorate, and this last one you have to think are we the people just stupid and too gullible to act and fight for ourselves or do the leberal and labor party know all.

What we have seen is that these party's have only one thing at heart and that is themselves, I had thought they are there to represent us, their electorates but no, how can this be, when they all stand in unison and say no/yes to labor or liberal policy.

Even Rudd might be a nice change of face but that is all it is ,face so it is time we fought back and we see this everyday from us normal everyday people trying to make a real change, with real candidates.

email:swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Australian Peoples Party
Posted by tapp, Friday, 22 December 2006 2:59:29 PM
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‘Rudd puts a different kind of economic future on the cards.’

Really? Well it’s not very evident from the article. In fact all the things mentioned amount to a slight rearrangement of the proverbial deckchairs.

What IS the envisaged ‘different kind of economic future’?

We should surely be looking at a scenario much broader than just economics. What about quality of life and environment, and the sustainability of these fundamentals.

THIS should be our bottom line or dual bottom line if you like, NOT the economy, especially when economic growth and prosperity is rather poorly correlated to these parameters!

The new future that Rudd needs to steer us towards is one that is based on sustainability and on real average per-capita economic growth rather than gross economic growth associated with population growth, which simply doesn’t lead to improvements in per-capita economic growth or quality of life for the average person, but which does rapidly increase demands of all sorts on our already stressed resource base.

If Labor did this, they would set themselves up as a very different alternative to the Libs, and they would have a great deal of support within the community.

If Kevin Rudd is really half-proficient at social entrepreneurship then he will know this, or get to know it very quickly.
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 22 December 2006 8:57:54 PM
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A PROPHET SPEAKS......

No.. don't get ur nickers in a knot.. it aint me. But I often reflect on what John the Baptist would say if he walked around Melbourne today.

I know one thing any serious prophet would say "Politicians, say what you actually MEAN, rather than giving spin"

FAIR PAY FOR FAIR WORK.
I long for an Australia where a builders laborer receives a fair days pay for a fair days work. I don't consider that $27/hour is fair relative to the training and value adding done by thousands of others in the community who spend time and money on specific training. It is grossly excessive.
The only reason a laborer can obtain this much is pure and simple POWER. Its brutality, its coercion, its bullying, its extortion, and is morally reprehensible and criminal.

At the other end of the scale, commonly called the 'big end' of town, the rapacious and self serving, greedy, economically in-bred, incestuous, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours, bonus upon bonus for mediocrity, remuneration considered by most obcene.. yes.. John would have words about that too.

But what can RUDD do ? or more accurately what can he SAY and really mean.....that will actually mean something to us OTHER than "We can do better, elect us" which sounds as believable as "new improved Rinso" how much 'better' or 'improved' and for whom ?

Give me a politian who can say "We will tax slavery at customs" and then will say "And this is the most likely impact on us in the bigger economic connectivity picture"

Does 'Labor' represent anything other than 'laborers' ? Does the Coalition represent anyone other than Newsagents, Pharmacies, Miners and Graziers ?

John... we need you again mate..and bring along Elijah also, maybe we can see the 450 prophets of Baal go up in flames again and start over.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 23 December 2006 11:26:55 AM
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Ludwig, yes mate, we need more than just rhetoric. Right now as a worried great-grand-papa, with one going on sixteen, guess we thinkers should be Onlining about what our great great gandkids will be inheriting in the future.

So much selfish greed with a craziness to use up all our nature-given pit-stocks, from precious gold to gas, et al, et al.

Can't we leave a bit for our precious progeny? Have we got any plans for when all the priceless stuff runs out?

Furthermore, an intriguing question is why our leadheaded politicians and greedy corporatists cannot work around our ancient Aboriginal's magnificient Burrup rock art? If they are after gas, deep bores can be drilled at amazing angles, even to deep-down horizontal shafting, as proven in Kawait and southern Iraq, when oil and gas was stolen from both sides of the border.

Finally, if our politicians have not got the nounce to do it, our Schools of Humanities should be biting the bullet and warning our kids how our governments have been mostly on the make, with little thought about the future of babies being born in our hospitals right now.

Sorry getting carried away, Ludwig, but it seems the older I get the more disgusted I get with our leader's lack of forethought.

Anyhow, a very happy Christmas, mate, both to you and your family.

PS Grandkids on our farms, finished up averaging around 12 bushells to the acre up at Buntine. Would have paid at one time, but certainly not today. Lot better than some of the other cockies, however. Cheers, G, BB
Posted by bushbred, Saturday, 23 December 2006 12:19:40 PM
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Your right bushbred but the problem is nobody wants to stand, they just want to winge about the problems and do nothing.

Here i am ex army med discharged with a disabled daughter and what am i doing standing,fed up with all that is going on.

What makes it worse is that people just dont care.

Well i hope all have a good Christmas and if you want to try for real change at the next federal election you might consider being a candidate or members.

I can make a stand but help is always needed.

Email:swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Australian Peoples Party
Posted by tapp, Saturday, 23 December 2006 4:15:45 PM
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