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The price is too low for H2O : Comments

By Teri Etchells, published 30/11/2006

Malcolm Turnbull is right: we should be paying more for our water.

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The price of water will only go up for those who do not invest in their own water tank. Without your own water you are at the mercy of some of the sleasiest spivs on the planet.

For the average family in the average year in Brisbane (1050mm year) using 255Kl of water, an 8000 litre tank will have 33 tank fulls flow into it from a 250m2 roof. There will be 6 tank fulls over flowing in the wet season and 6 tank fulls needed from the mains supply in the dry season.

This tank will cost $1400 and, even if all the council rebates were spent on plumbing etc, it will supply 27 tank fulls each year at an annual interest cost (7%) of $98pa which works out at $3.62 per tank full or $0.45/kilolitre. If we add in the 48Kl of mains water at $1/Kl the average cost of all water will be $0.56/Kl.

The house will only source 15% of its needs from the "water mafia" and even if they doubled their price to $2/Kl the average price to the tank owning household will only increase to $0.74/Kl.

But the moment the water mafia lift their prices, the economics of water tanks will sink into the minds of more and more consumers and the water mafia will sell less and less water until the economics of even the existing storage infrastructure is compromised.

So all this crap about the need to raise prices is based on the assumption that there is no cheaper alternative source of supply. There is. The assumption is dead wrong so don't go investing your superannuation in any water infrastructure that isn't in your own yard under your own control.
Posted by Perseus, Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:35:37 AM
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Malcom Turdbull can afford it.

How about the thirty percent of the populations affluent paying more for it?

Business is a high user of this precious resource and is compensated by their ability to tax deduct this expense.

When we think of products which take high volumes of water to produce, such as fruit and vegetable export, we are virtually shipping our water overseas.
Posted by Suebdootwo, Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:29:04 PM
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Here is the latest Sea Height Anomaly(SHA) map for Australia.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1165581629.gif

East Coast: There are large SHAs indicating primarily thermal disturbances most likely associated with heat trapping colloidal pollution. They are consistently associated with plumes out of (nth to sth):

Princess Charlotte Bay,
Cairns,
**Mackay/Shaolwater Bay,
Bundaberg,
Maroochydore/Brisbane
Macleay River to Port Macquarie
**Sydney to the Gong
Cape Howe

Thermodynamic imbalances, reinforced by gravitational collapse of high to low ocean SHA movements and tides create atmospheric Energy above staggered sections of the Australian East coast. Because of the immense pollution loadings, that energy does not enter the atmosphere as fast as if heat trapping colloidals in the sea surface were absent. This means the High entropy pollution in the sea surface has effectively transferred to atmospheric layers.

NSW/Victoria: Now we know that Low entropy inland heat, carrying moisture and topsoil is attracted to those now Higher entropy atmospheric zones. This is the reason for Australia's drought. El Nino is irrelevant in comparison to this localised or REGIONAL thermodynamic system.

North Qld: The higher coastal entropy will attract heat from tropical waters to the Nth East. QAs summer is fading and water temperatures are maximum Cyclones WILL form. Currently, Mackay is the prime target.

I will update these prognoses regularly from now till cyclone season begins in earnest. The Drought? It will continue till NSW Labor stops funnelling voters taxes into lucrative DESAL deals that promise to underwrite Botany Bay casinos and subsequently Sydney as the Crime capital of the Sthn Hemisphere.

Neither Iemma or Howard will lift a finger to stop the drought while big business corrupt money-funnels are in the offing.
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 8 December 2006 11:20:37 PM
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CONSTRUCTION of a desalination plant to sustain Sydney's water supply seems inevitable ..

After an INDEPENDENT? advisory panel urged the State Government to start building as soon as dam levels hit 30 per cent - which is likely to happen within months.

Peter Debnam said. "The desalination plant was environmentally unsound, is expensive and it is in a location that the community does not want."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/saltwater-plant-gets-backing/2006/12/10/1165685553908.html

Comment:

The latest SHA maps show a DISTURBING increase in pollution plumes off the NSW coast CONCURRENT with the above INDEPENDENT? reprort.

DEC 1 through DEC 8:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1165755161.gif
shows relatively high but constant levels of pollution off the NSW coast.

But from DEC 9 to today, corresponding to the report::
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1165751258.gif
There is a notable MAJOR increase in coastal pollution density and coverage.

This has the implications that:

* The NSW government KNOWS that polluted coastal SHA anomaly fields are thermodynamically inducing NSW drought

* They are deliberately augmenting the pollution levels to worsen the drought and lower Dam levels to below the 30% level so a DESAL plant will be timed to be shoehorned into legislation BEFORE the imminent March 2007 elections. The expectation being that if an INDEPENDENT? panel has authored the DESAL plant then the government will not lose votes over its introduction into law.

* My allegations about the DESAL plant being a necessary infrastructure and investment momentum tool for large scale casino and gaming opportunities along Botany bay and Cook's River foreshores are probably correct.

This is REAL CEO sponsored TERRORISM in action.They are subverting an elected government with what can only be assumed are substantial FUTURE rewards post office.

No recognised Terrorist group has been able to do as much damage to a western economy as this NSW Labor government, anywhere in the World.

But the NSW Government forgot one thing: We are watching the SHA maps and soon they will be held accountable not only for corruption but also for creating conditions that are CAUSING drought, bushfire and hardship for the citizens of NSW.
Posted by KAEP, Monday, 11 December 2006 8:30:53 AM
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Kaep

I suspect that if the entropy/drought theory was proven there would be a rash of wetland developments associated with all populated areas. Maybe the inaction simply reflects the lack of empirical evidence. WHo wouldn't want the theory to be true as it would mean a very chea and achievable end to the drought and municipal water shortages? It might even send the water vultures away for a while.
Posted by Fester, Monday, 11 December 2006 7:11:03 PM
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Fester,

Empirical evidence is on the way. March 07 will see another large cyclone strike Qld. I should be able to predict when and where it will strike from a combination of SHA and SST data maps.

Additionally, I believe the US are now on to cleaning wastewaters in Hurricane season. If I am correct there will not be any landfall US hurricanes in 2007 but I will be able to point out significant alterations in pollution plumes from major US rivers and ports after June Ist compared to earlier in the Year.

2007 will be a very valuable data collection period for RECCE theory and hopefully that data can be used here in Australia to put an early end to this incessant drought.

I will be posting results both here and on the NY Times on a regular basis provided the satellite maps remain available..
Posted by KAEP, Monday, 11 December 2006 11:29:18 PM
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