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Women see red on White Ribbon Day : Comments

By Bronwyn Winter, published 27/11/2006

White Ribbon Day should be a time where each man considers his own behaviours, attitudes, beliefs and values he holds towards women.

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JamesH,

You mean something like a father may feel after repeated denials by the justice system to allow paternity testing? Or the feeling he may experience finding out he is not the biological father to his children. Or the fear attained through violence and intimidation that renders him “not bothered” and throws him into the “rather not know” bucket.

Maybe you refer to the collective heads in sand on topics such as child abuse, abortion, or family break up. Things we would just rather not properly understand, but prefer to disguise, or even restrict access to data already held. Things that if we knew about, would break the human spirit to the point of hurting our economy, or worse, diminishing state power and/or bringing about some sort of breakdown in law and order …

Or do you infer that helpless feeling that a man may get post divorce when he loses most of his assets, all of his children and cannot achieve any judgements of meaningful access and support. The feeling he gets when the court seems interested in presenting the appearance of justice, but is unable to enforce an order the mother does not wish to recognise, or just unwilling to punish her blatant violation.

Are you perhaps alluding to the numbness felt by all surviving CSA clients?
Posted by Seeker, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 9:12:28 PM
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Seeker I had not thought of the points you raise which I think are very good.

"Maybe you refer to the collective heads in sand on topics such as child abuse, abortion, or family break up. Things we would just rather not properly understand, but prefer to disguise, or even restrict access to data already held. Things that if we knew about, would break the human spirit to the point of hurting our economy, or worse, diminishing state power and/or bringing about some sort of breakdown in law and order"

I think this points to the fact that there is no absolute truth in matters associated with human relationships which tend to be or can be extremely complex.

I think many things that happen can be so sutble that they can be easily explained away.
Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 21 December 2006 7:15:41 AM
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This article is quite representative of much of what is being said about the male gender in many Universities. I have heard from male students currently enrolled in Universities that they are being treated as being some type of criminal as soon as they step foot onto the campus. This is because there are so many feminists in those Universities that portray males as being violent, sexual abusers, or oppressors of women.

There has been a loss of men from families, and there is also a loss of men from education systems. The numbers of male teachers is gradually declining, and the number of male students going on to higher education systems is gradually declining also.

If the situation in education is allowed to continue, (or allowed to get worse), then males will be gradually removed from education as they have been removed from families.

This article has been written by a University lecturer, and it is totally gender prejudiced and bigoted. If there are no complaints then Universities such as the University of Sydney will accept such prejudice and bigotry from their lecturers, and the numbers of such articles will likely continue, and eventually there are even less males in education. You can make complaints to the University of Sydney via the Acting Manager, Harassment & Discrimination Resolution at p.lyons@eeo.usyd.edu.au
Posted by HRS, Thursday, 21 December 2006 10:38:48 AM
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HRS

after reading Daphne Patai and Hoff Sommers, there is no doubt of what you are saying is true about universities.

I get the strong impression that this is more about bullying then any real desire to address gender issues.

A tendency I have noted is that when the party line is challanged, those who support the party line will make personal attacks on those who dare to contradict them or who dare to challange the research
Posted by JamesH, Friday, 22 December 2006 7:16:41 AM
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Premier Iemma...you are WRONG..

Wrong morally.
Wrong Legally.
Wrong Socially.

Your statement "Any man who assaults a woman is a bad character"

with no qualification whatsovever is not only incorrect legally, it is also DANGEROUS socially.

The idea that a man cannot defend himself from a knife wielding woman is contrary to the LAW, and common sense.

Self defense if lawful.

By making this public comment without qualification, you have contributed to irresponsible violence against men by woman, who will now feel they are protected by the Law and public Opinion.

Shabby... very shabby indeed....and you are Premier ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 22 December 2006 7:35:44 AM
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And here’s an example of the “softer”, “kinder” female violence we don’t wish to recognise because we lack the necessary stats. Increasingly women appear to be doing their own dirty work, although Iemma’s recent statements on violence against women, indicates this may be a slow transition.

"It's surprising, it's not common for women to carry out such acts," Insp Ellis said.
"Statistically speaking, one would not expect a woman to be the perpetrator of such a crime."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Teens-on-murder-charges-over-body-in-bin/2006/12/21/1166290673236.html

Wonder how we would feel if it was a man’s body found. Guess also, we can safely rule out sexual abuse, and defense or retribution thereof, as motives.
Posted by Seeker, Friday, 22 December 2006 8:01:13 AM
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