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It really does matter who you are, and where you come from : Comments
By Leslie Cannold, published 28/12/2006Lobbyists should disclose their agendas, allies and paymasters.
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Posted by Cornflower, Tuesday, 2 January 2007 11:52:11 AM
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Cornflower I see your point and can only add that articles or essays are venues for information or points of view which only allow broad strokes. I regard what anybody says is just the tip of the iceberg.I guess from that the name of the game is to evoke interest to motivate the reader to investigate further. We as the audience can investigate claims ourselves. Some may choose to not bother which is their right. Personally a quick indication of why is sufficient. Reports, books or chapters or tv and radio documentaries of course are the exception which require indepth discussion.
Posted by West, Tuesday, 2 January 2007 12:09:31 PM
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I have been unfairly demonised and/or turned into a joke by the system in order to cover up serious allegations that my family have made of systemic victimsation and discrimination aimed at my children.
I recently got told the following: "Try and focus on how long you have been feeling that you and your kids have been "wronged". You no doubt have cause for feeling that way but where can it end? You now have a Premier with your name on the "laugh" list. And your children's names too. Don't you understand that?" Posted by Jolanda, Tuesday, 2 January 2007 12:58:22 PM
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Cornflower I understand feminism being the right to be paid the same rate for the same work as the man next to you. 40 years ago women in australia earned 66% of the male wage and could not be permanent public servants. In the 1920s women were not paid for work.
Yes I am annoyed that the catholic Church is being paid to run counselling services _ i am appalled that the contract was actually awarded to an overseas outfit, Kinross. For goodness sake our graduates leave Australia because there is no work, so why does the government waste taxpayers dollars lining overseas pockets. Yes its important to know that groups with environmental names are actually fronts for forestry lobby groups or big tobacco because these groups have been set up to expressly change public opinion and make people doubt the truth of what they know. Like many Victorian teachers, nurses and child care workers who are called out for casual work at one hours notice - I am appalled at the country's embrace of labour hire companies who send jobs overseas, hire in migrants and leave our home grown graduates with no choice but to migrate in search of work. This activity will do more to destroy the cohesiveness of the family than anything else. Posted by billie, Tuesday, 2 January 2007 4:56:50 PM
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Oh well done Jolanda. I wrote that comment to you a couple of days ago via your website, where you did not have the guts to publish my comment(s). I notice you have now done so after telling me you would not publish them. Did you find advantage in publishing after refusal?
And do try and read the whole message, not just the bits that suit your paranoia. My sole interest, as you know fully well, is the mental health of your children. Why have you excluded that from my comments here on OLP? You know why and so does every other reader here. Simply it doesn't suit your purpose does it? Whatever that may be as you certainly do not put your children's health above your obsession(s), in my opinion. Why did you not publish your own response to my first comment on your website? You have since published a response but it is not the one you sent me by email. Should I publish that here for you? What is a laugh list? It's an expression Jolanda. It describes the reaction large organisations have to repetetive complaints from someone on a sole topic over many years. It's what exists in the imagination of the person complaining, no one else. You should also state that I have not questioned the validity of your problem(s) as I have not. My interest, repeat, is in the mental health of your children. Posted by RobbyH, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 2:23:12 AM
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What a load of Crock Robby You challenged me saying that I would not post your post on my blog and, in that first instance, for some reason I didn’t. I usually do I guess nobody has ever challenged me like that before. At that point, instead I replied to you, after I replied to you and you responded I decided to post your post, if people read your response they will see why I posted your posts- http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/
That your concern is my children’s mental health is a load of you know what! If children are being systemically victimized, neglected and discriminated against and it is causing them harm and impacting on their mental and emotional health it isn’t the best thing for the children if the parent ignores it and does the same. This is not in my head this is real and I have the evidence to prove it. My children stand tall because I fight for their rights. If you really cared about my children you would agree that the serious allegations and complaints needed to be investigated, not covered up, so as to be resolved and so that my children can feel safe, validated and vindicated and could move on with their life without discrimination and fear and so those that are abusing their power can be made to answer and held accountable. You like everybody else is protecting the guilty adults. Feel free to publish what you like the post was pretty much identical and it is a free country. Oh and it really does matter who you are because if you are not rich enough to buy respect and if you happen to be of dark background nobody believes that you deserve respect or rights Posted by Jolanda, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 9:25:57 AM
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What about the ethics of sledging without evidence? I reckon this was an elaborate and sneaky way to sledge some women who were recently (?) appointed as directors of WFA. Where is the supporting evidence for the assertions? If you were a director of WFA do you think this allegation could reflect on you?
At the same time, another hated group came in for a cat swipe on flimsy 'evidence' as well.
Where are the ethics in any of that? To my way of thinking it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, spin is spin and it is equally unwelcome coming from those who would regard themselves as being on the side of the angels as from those they cast as devils.
Ethics is not a cloak that is donned or removed to suit the target and occasion.
Again I feel I must add that I have no interest in either of the bodies discussed.