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Home ownership - dark side of the boom : Comments

By Kim Carr, published 1/11/2006

It’s official - home ownership is less affordable than it has ever been before.

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Who is ridiculing the aging population for owning their homes? Nobody is unless they are foolish. As for 'move further out for cheaper homes'...where? There is no such place that exists. Three years ago, yes but not now.

Look at reports coming in from charity groups who say that more and more people are defaulting on rents solely because the costs of living is outstripping 'real wages'. South East Queensland is witnessing young families living in tents - wealthy bums. Why? Because of a shortage of housing and a growing rate of people unable to afford rents.

They also say that the first home buyer is increasingly being pushed out of the market. These statistics are not coming from Marxist(etc) organisations but church charities and such.

There are certain people who buy up home after home after home. I once rented a house of a fella who rented out 20 homes. As more and more people are pushed out of the market, society becomes feudalist.
Posted by Spider, Sunday, 5 November 2006 11:59:14 PM
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Spider – Your last post.

I would have thought someone equipped with all these policies and things which are being, to use your worlds “formulated world wide” would have had a response re

What is an essential service?
Intergenerational conflict as it contributes to the problem of street kids?
Published views on commercial regulation and corporate ownership?
Solution you offer to deal with the problem of attracting investment into the rental market?
A reference source for the policy and manifesto statements of the organization which has “formulated world wide plans”.

Instead your last post simply reiterated some problems. No suggestions, no creative ideas.

It is pretty straight forward for anyone to identify a problem, I do it every day. I then focus on developing a solution.

From what I see, no one is being “pushed out of the market” what I do see however, is a lot of people who, as a matter of personal choice, decide not to save for a mortgage.

What we choose for ourselves is what country gal has done.
She looked at her circumstances and decided how she wants to deal with them. She did not ask for special consideration or for other people’s choices to be regulated or curtailed to suit her. She just got on and sorted out her plans and all credit to her.

I would still appreciate insight into the questions I asked originally and relisted above.

Cornflower

WSWS is merely a front for diehard Trotskyites. The fringe loons that even Stalin recognized as totally impractical and incapable of running a nose let alone a community (that is why he had Trotsky hunted down and ice-picked). Following in Trotsky’s dogma of eternal revolution they attract the impotent and incompetent by pandering to the envy inherent in the small minded toward the gifted with faux promises authority under the state for their pledge of fraternal support (aka “selling ones soul to the devil”).

Using such a site as a reference source displays either complete naivety in the extreme, verging on the stupid, or the desperation which results from moral bankruptcy.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 6 November 2006 7:09:54 AM
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Spider, you wrote:

>>Look at Perth about to become more expensive than Sydney<<

It may help us to understand the problem a little more if you gave us your explanation of how this has come about?

Perth is after all the most remote State capital, and has traditionally lagged the Eastern States in its house prices, yet suddenly the papers are full of "Perth's Real Estate Boom!"

Why is this so? What government policy has been at work here to create this situation? What iniquities of the capitalist running dog stooge lackey faction are creating this disaster?

Or is it, perhaps, the normal functioning of an open market, and a classic example of the laws of supply and demand operating smoothly?

Because if your problem is basic economics at work, then I have to tell you that it will be a significant influence in any society in which you find yourself, or even one that you dream up for yourself.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 6 November 2006 8:31:55 AM
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Col Rougue: you may call WSWS 'fringe Trotskyists' - and I am myself amazed what a good job they do maintaining their website - but I don't think you can call NATSEM that, and that is who is being quoted.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Monday, 6 November 2006 9:43:38 AM
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Tristan “WSWS 'fringe Trotskyists' - and I am myself amazed what a good job they do maintaining their website“

Oh you are right Tristan, I have noticed it too. It often seems easier to find to left leaning web site than an honest one.

Having received a dole cheque through the mail, the avid socialist devotes his day to writing out the rules for society which he has dreamed up to inflict upon other people, inventing quotas and regulations to ensure no one achieves more than the mediocre and embellishing his website, his own “domain” on the internet.

Whilst the avid socialist is dreaming up all that stuff, those of the right are out there building businesses, running the world, profiting from the internet and ensuring someone is paying the taxes from which the socialist’s dole cheques are drawn against.

Reality is, with all that going on the “right” do not have time to build pipedream web page empires.

Although my business partner does a fabulous job on ours, he has that “design flair.
My business site opens with a flash presentation (a very “flash“ flash presentation) but it is all commercial, not political.

In comparison, the offerings of the WSWS is banal, bland and reflective of the utilitarianist mediocrity which is their hallmark.
The trots have tried “entryism” into Labour in the 1970’s. They have done the same to the green movement and might have had their biggest success in getting some of this global warming rubbish into debate but, ultimately, lacking the real vision and imagination necessary to move things forward, they will fall by the wayside to go unnoticed in a changing world.

Cornflower has already answered your other point, surveys can only be read in conjunction with the questions and the nature of the population which was asked.

Spiders absence of response on the source of the “fascist policies“ which are being decided upon around the world but which he has decided are too precious for mere mortals and tax payers to be party to, is noted.

Come on Spider, why so secret? Afraid of debate?
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 7 November 2006 1:57:01 AM
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Col - you conveniently avoid the question of whether or not NATSEM can be so readily dismissed as 'fringe Trotsyists'.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:14:48 AM
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