Science for Science class and ID is not Science.

Hear Hear, Kenny. ID is not scientific. It is anti-intellectualism to the extreme.

This is not an either/or debate, where for ID to be plausible eveolution needs to be disproved. Evolutionary theory is coherent, tangible, and refutable. The David Boaz's of this world are welcome to disprove any element of it.

One can pick holes in eveolutionary theory - it is in these holes that I.D. lives. It is a proposition, not a theory, and barring the second coming will remain so. It is controversial only because it is being suggested it belongs in a science classroom rather than a philosophy or religious classroom.

The author of this article said it quite well - "What I want my children to learn is how to assess evidence dispassionately. I want them to learn and appreciate the difference between faith and reason."

If only adults did the same.

2 BENNIE and KENNY

"The Gang of Two" :)

I don't think you guys read my post... did u ?

You guys are criticizing a position I was NOT espousing..

Let me RE-state it for the benefit of you 2. This time I'll use 'numbers' so you cannot get it wrong :)

1/ TEACH EVOLUTION (i.e. adapatation, natural selection)in science classes.

2/ DO NOT teach that the world or Humans 'originated' through 'evolution' (such a position is faith based and speculative)
in science classes unless ALL theories are equally mentioned.

3/ TEACH the "Controversy" of origins in Philosophy/Civics classes along with the moral ramifications of each position.

Got it now ? now go ahead and talk about the 'Boaz's' of this world in terms of what they ACTUALLY said.. grrr

Blessings

It seems that people such as the author are not aware that their 'reason' is based in faith.

Faith and reason are not different ways of knowing or different sides of the same coin or mutually exclusive.

Faith is the foundation of all reason, as reasoning is impossible without faith.

So to argue that science is reason/provable as opposed to faith is to miss the point that science itself is based on faith.

With respect, I was down at the shopping centre the other day walking back to my car with a carton, when I heard a tremendous, thunderous roar. My eyes begat a wonderous site, a GTHO Ford Falcon. It was like two inches off the ground and had the wide tyres, paint job, had the lot. My heart pounded, my arms went all goose bumply. It crawled around the shopping centre, its engine thumping, and get this, it had a locked diff - so its tyres squealled as it slowly weaved its way around the shopping centre.
I noticed all the men stopped in their tracks, jaws dropped, young boys staring in awe - their skateboard momentarily forgotten, the women looking puzzled and annoyed. FORD GTHO FALCON with 351 cubic inches of pure grunt - now that is Intelligent Design (except for the brakes) and to prove it on the back window was the sticker "Praise the Ford".
I could swear I heard a hushed "amen" among the men - except for, of course, the usual suspect whose Evil Holden was doing just that "jus' holden' together". As he wrestled with the jarred door of his Evil Beast, he mumbled something like "F**ked On Race Day" or "Found On Rubbish Dump" - his toothless grin and bogan haircut suggesting that his blasphemy had not gone unpunished in the past. "Peuter" quickly retreated into his car and slammed the door (four times) and drove off giving us all the Evil Finger.
I might add here that the driver of the Ford also gave us the finger - the Godly finger (my local Constable Care doesn't accept this premise by the way) - the outstretched thumb symbolising the Father, the next two outstretched fingers the Son and the Holy Spirit and the two curled fingers the two Natures of Christ. So there - evidence that I saw God driving a Ford.

Everybody knows God drives a Ford - don't they? Evil blasphamous people drive Holdens. I won't even mention the consummate evil of other brands that go against God's Ideal Vehicle.

i allways thought god drives a Cobra.

http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Shelby%20Cobra%20Concept%202004%20-%201024x768.jpg