Mid East oil resources are so massively important to western civilisation, that l fear the only way to grab something that big is to spill blood and destroy stuff. Thats what, ahem... civilised animals (human beings) do. Thankfully not all of us.

l dont like it either.

Interesting Guardian on-line article today...

http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/news/story/0,,1864656,00.html

thanks for the link kevin, interesting indeed

but how long until the Australian media wakes up and starts to report the biggest story of our lifetimes? are they going to wait until washington is ablaze?

Yes, it is interesting to that some people prefer to pretend 9/11 is a CIA plot. Or that 9/11 was an Iraqi plot.

Someone told me that "the jews were warned to stay out of the WTC". Then someone else said "the arabs were warned to not to go to work that day." Ridiculous. Both arabs and jews were killed in the WTC collapse.

Not only is the CIA plot idea completely unbelievable, it does not make any sense. If the CIA was willing to kill 3000 people, because it was dramatic, it would make more sense to target 10 people in 10 smaller roadside bomb attacks. If the CIA could pull off such a stunt, a plot so that WMD's were found in Iraq would be a piece of cake.

David Latimer,

Indeed there are many claims about 9/11 that are ridiculous. Many conspiracy theorists have some sort of racist agenda beneath their 'research', don't listen to them.

For a more reasoned approach to the issue check out www.911truth.org

In the interests of balance you can look at www.9111myths.com too- (these guys refute claims of the sceptics). Both of these websites have links to peer reviewed research; you can make up your own mind.

I however am basically swayed, I don’t claim to know all the details about how and exactly who pulled it off. I’m not a structural engineer but the collapse of WTC7 baffles me. I have heard the official explanation, a fire that burned for 7 hours caused a 47 story building to collapse in under 7 seconds, it just doesn’t sit with me. And what about the Pentagon? The FBI has admitted that they confiscated footage of the attack from a hotel and service station, if so, where is it? If they don’t anything to hide why not shut us up once and for all? If they can give me an ADEQUATE explanation of these events I will shut up tomorrow.

I know that it’s an extraordinary conspiracy, something Ollie Stone could never have dreamed of. However I have an even more extraordinary conspiracy for you, 19 arabs successfully hijack 4 planes under the direction from a guy in a cave. They pick a day that the US military is playing multiple war games leaving the East Coast of the US basically unguarded. With military precision they strike two major towers in NYC, then a full 45 mins after the first attack they fly into Washington DC and hit the Pentagon, in what should be the some of the most secure airspace in the world. And some people believe this garbage?

I suppose David what is 3,000 lives when you believe you are about to gain the whole world. What a focal point to tell the whole world that you are now the world's only super power and we are going to do things our way - and you'd better listen up or be very afraid.

The biggest joke of course is that America is not the only super power. Any nation with an atomic bomb can claim the same - surely?

Anyway - whats so "super" about wanting to dominate the whole world - people and resources?

this is what is really going on....

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_thom_har_060905_thom_hartmann_3b_democ.htm