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By David Ritter, published 22/8/2006Those who committed Australia to the foolishness in Iraq have themselves suffered no political consequences.
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Posted by Narcissist, Wednesday, 23 August 2006 5:10:17 PM
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Narcissist, when the Iraqi regime was using those WMD on the Kurds the entire world stood by and did nothing.
Now how do you think they got those things and why on earth woutd it be acceptable to blow up Iraq 15 years afterwards? The fact is that the weapons were all destroyed by in 1991, something the US knew. So be pedantic if you want to go back 15 years but what is the point? When we blew up Iraq they didn't have any. Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Thursday, 24 August 2006 2:00:28 AM
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By the terms of the Nuremberg Convention, Howard should be tried at The Hague -
- for conducting and enabling an aggressive war. - no matter what fine nuance or spin Ruddock may care to garnish our war crime with. 100,000 dead, even before the sly-boys duped them into killing one another on our behalf in their "civil war". This is the famous Salvador Option (Google it) so beloved of Mr Negroponte (Google him). The crimes are hidden in plain view. If there is a parallel to be imagined, then imagine us joining the Nazis to crush Poland - for such was the array of opposing forces. No heroism there - just a safe bet based on sound business judgement. We like to pick certainties. Looking back, one sees the past with a new clarity, for this was a long time in the planning. For example, there was a constitutional sticking point. The Governor General is titular head of the armed forces, with the power of veto. The highly principled and trustworthy GG William Dean was removed (without precedent) before his term was up. He was replaced by the compromised and malleable Hollingworth, who was disposed of once his job was done (a patsy - really neat). Now we are saddled with a military man, who will not get in the way at all. Check the dates and timing for yourselves. Coincidence? I very much doubt it! Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Thursday, 24 August 2006 8:20:58 AM
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Let me clarify the Salvador Option for Iraq:
From the Guardian - " The Pentagon has secretly shipped tens of thousands of small arms from Bosnia to Iraq in the past two years, using a web of private companies, at least one of which is a noted arms smuggler blacklisted by Washington and the UN. According to a report by Amnesty International, which investigated the sales, the US government arranged for the delivery of at least 200,000 Kalashnikov machine guns from Bosnia to Iraq in 2004-05. But though the weaponry was said to be for arming the fledgling Iraqi military, there is no evidence of the guns reaching their recipient. " The rest is here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/armstrade/story/0,,1773106,00.html See - the crimes are hidden in plain view. Do you ever wonder how we will unseat the war mongers? Bush, Blair and Howard are themselves patsies, who put their heads in the noose for the corporate forces who thought they would open the Iraq-Mart and make a financial killing - privatise the profits and socialise the costs. But do we have the collective nous to unravel this ball of wax, or do we go on fiddling around the edges? Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Thursday, 24 August 2006 8:50:00 AM
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The warn in IRAQ,what war?may we all assk ourseleves,as by the recorded evidence,it should be classed as a TRERRORIST ACT against the civilian population of that country,and the known ones responsible for that is the three Bush Blair and John Howard,how can this ever have been justified,as there was never any logical reason for that invasion,and speaking of John Howard,his supporters in Australia still thinks of him as one of Australia's greatest Prime Ministers,indeed a bad reflection,about the humanity of so many Australians
Posted by KAROOSON, Monday, 28 August 2006 3:32:50 PM
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Iraq did at some point have WMD. How else did they use nerve gas on the Kurds and Iranian's?
The point is at some time between using nerve gas and the US led Coalition invasion, UN Inspectors couldn't locate them. They were either destroyed (as is likely), hidden or as Boaz_David states, moved to somewhere else.
To simply state that because they aren't there now means that they were never there is simply a fallacy.
Cheers.