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A very difficult relationship: living with Indonesia : Comments

By Richard Woolcott, published 4/8/2006

Australia must pursue a more balanced, less self-righteous approach to Indonesia.

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For what it's worth there are more Indonesian soldiers on leave at the moment that we have soldiers in our defense forces.

Think on it.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 4 August 2006 5:44:46 PM
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It's very interesting reading Woolcott as he was around when the invastion of East Timor happened, when Fraser was PM and not Whitlam as often claimed. 183,000 people were murdered over the next 24 years by people just like SBY, we didn't liberate them in the end we were invited in.

We love them when they want to shoot "terr'ists", hate them if they let asylum seekers through. Rant at them if they lock up drug smugglers on one hand and turn in other drug smugglers to be shot on the other hand.

It is always stated that it is the largest Islamic state but so what Richard? China is the largest communist state but we don't say that anymore, we don't say that India is the largest Hindu state and so on.

By constantly saying it is the largest islamic state we are allowing the old Howard dog whistle to prevail and inciting fear against people who are not hurting us.

As for the fishermen - it's like good old colonialism when people where locked up for stealing bread, now we lock them up for stealing fish.

Do you know we have spent about $3 billion locking out refugees, $3 billion killing muslims in several countries, $300 million or so stopping "illegal" fishing and fishing and refugees cause us more grief than slaughtering human beings in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Do the fish know who is allowed to catch them I wonder? If they did would they jump off the Indonesia hooks?
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Friday, 4 August 2006 8:19:42 PM
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Today they issued a warning that they'll kill anyone who supports Israel.

Very good sick pschomania BS. The sooner we cut off ties with them, the better
Posted by Websters, Friday, 4 August 2006 8:30:40 PM
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Indonesian fishermen poaching and overfishing in Australian waters should have their boats seized, set fire to and sunk; and then they should be jailed for life. Many Australians think penalties in Indonesia are inhumane and harsh, so the only way to put these people in their place is to retaliate in kind. What a shame we have a such despiccable neighbour.

In fact I see no reason to even acknowledge Indonesia as a neighbour - it is beneath contempt. We only need to focus on important countries in our region like Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and India. Indonesia is too irresponsible, vain, arrogant, unstable and temperamental to even bother with. The sooner we sever relations, the better.
Posted by Kvasir, Friday, 4 August 2006 10:33:37 PM
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Amazing! Ten posts and not one mention of the mythical 'pro Jakarta lobby' Mr. Woolcott was regularly accused of being a member of.
Posted by Leigh, Saturday, 5 August 2006 12:19:26 PM
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When illegal Indonesian fisherman are caught they are given medical treatment, free board and lodging AND pay. It is ,in contrast to their normal life, a wonderful holiday---see you next week, we'll be back!
All on the tax payer's back.
Their boats should be burned and they should be returned pronto to their homeland with all costs taken from aid we give their country.
That may make a big difference.
Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 6 August 2006 5:11:34 PM
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