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Scotching the fallacies surrounding workplace reform : Comments

By Des Moore, published 30/6/2006

The Coalition needs to argue the case for workplace reform.

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Mr man I missed that crowd reaction, I am from NSW and was hideing under the bed crying!
What a shame I missed it the one good thing on that night, can I say this is my game? my life, but we never can compete with Queenslands passion.
That fine is $200 but as interest rates rise [twice more by election day] and fuel too we are a chance ,workchoices is on a tight reign for a while if Australia truely understood it post election Howard would never win.
Kim Beazley is my leader and I will stick to him, remember some are so badly informed they will not vote for him because they dislike him but while hateing workchoices wil vote for Howard!
Posted by Belly, Friday, 7 July 2006 9:01:02 AM
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Curioser & curioser,

The Cowra abatoir did not break the law by sacking the staff that would not sign the AWA's and then offering them their jobs back at the same reduced rate, under the AWA they refused to sign in the first place.

That being so, where exactly is the much touted protection of existing employees against employers seeking to use duress in order to make them accept lower pay & conditions? It appears that the way the law was meant to work is precisely the way it does work - if you don't want to sign the AWA you will be dismissed. If you want your job back, you'll have to sign an AWA as a new employee, foregoing all accrued benefits & seniority.

I would appreciate reasoned argument on how this analysis is wrong, trust me, I hope I am, but I do doubt it.

Inshallah

2 bob
Posted by 2bob, Friday, 7 July 2006 2:58:01 PM
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2Bob. By George you have got it. Well done.
Posted by hedgehog, Friday, 7 July 2006 3:13:05 PM
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No joy in saying this unions knew under workchoices no law was broken.
You can find very early predictions this was to be the result in workers online and the ACTU web site.
See I got it wrong again, one law was broken and thrown on the trash heap.
The one about the Aussie fair go.
Risky being honest but this goverment is telling more lies about workchoices than it did about children overboard.
Or the AWB issue, or, you fill in the gaps plenty more can be added to the list.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 7 July 2006 3:49:47 PM
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Workchoices! unions know its not our freind but it gets worse daily.
You would think some self control would be in place given Labors polling untill after the election, but if it is in place it must be going to be bad after it.
One very big internationaly owned construction company is talking to unions about a new agreement.
And saying payroll deductions of union fees can not be done because it would alowe them to know who is in a union?
Yes its not an alowable matter under workchoices but why lie?
This goverment has entrenched lies in our life and in time will regete it.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 23 July 2006 8:28:56 AM
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Just one small story in the workchoices nightmare for rural workers.
An offer of work ,we will fill in the gaps as we go the boss said.
ten hours worked on a Saturday and $88 pay!
A complaint was answered with take it or leave it its all you will get!
Non union and broke it could well be true too, why Mr Howard?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 6 August 2006 3:38:47 PM
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