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Denying equality smacks of apartheid : Comments
By Alastair Nicholson, published 7/6/2006Anyone who stands by the values of commitment, relationships and equality should support the rights of those in same-sex relationships.
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Posted by Hamlet, Friday, 9 June 2006 11:44:33 PM
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Equality in law has not, never has been, nor ever will be, the over riding conbsideration of legislators enacting law. The primary considertion for legislators has been in creating laws that allow for the peaceful propagation of a society. If Justice Nichols believes in absolute equality as a human right, then perhaps he would agree to working for the same wages as a builders labourer?
Homosexual behavior was illegal in Western societies for centuries for the very good reason that such behaviour it was expressely forbidden by our God. But in this secular and tolerant age , people have reconsidered homosexual behaviour as being as genetically directed behaviour which is relatively harmless. But the legalisation of homosexuality was never intended to bestow social approval. It reflected the idea that no amount of punishment was going to stop homosexuals anyway, and provided that they engaged in their activities in private, then few people really cared. Except, perhaps, for taxpayers, who have to fund the lavish lifestyles of proctologists, who are the ones delegated to repair the damage to the one way valve of homosexual mens rectums. But after gaining legal sanction, homosexuals now crave social approval and even respectability. This has resulted in various stunts being performed by homosexual activists demanding equality with normal people. But most normal people regard homosexuality only just above paedophilia, bestiality and necrophilia, all of which are genetically directed behaviour which is not considered acceptable behaviour at all. I predict that antagonism towards homosexuals will increase in the future, because of the objectional tactics that homosexuals are now using to promote their cause, which recently included brain washing pre schoolers with school books that presented their peculiar sexuality as natural. Posted by redneck, Saturday, 10 June 2006 7:17:25 AM
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Let the Gays have their own special service but not call it Marriage.What sort of an indentity crisis would beseige hetrosexual children raised by Gays no matter how loving the environment? Would they be given a choice to select their sexual prefrences in such pro-homosexual environment.
With the internet and our open door policy to all sexual activity,paedophiles are shamelessly peddling their trade,since they know that through early sexual imprinting,they have created another perverted,confused,sexual preditor.Really trying to teach pre-schoolers about sexual roles at our kindies is beyond the pale.Let them enjoy their childhood innocence. Children can't choose their parents and we should not be pandering to the whims of a minority so their rights will outshine the right of a child to experience both a Mother and a Father. I think our children are confused and screwed up enough now in our borderless mentality,without having to deal with two hermaphrodites whose union is impotent. Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 10 June 2006 1:08:13 PM
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Homosexualilty has always existed & legal recognition makes sense, but same-sex couples seem to want it all...including kids. Seems kinda ironic to insist on rights to something by definition forgone.
Posted by bennie, Saturday, 10 June 2006 4:20:51 PM
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It is not natural for a heterosexual to have a homosexual relationship. Thou shalt not lie, especially to yourself! Similarlarly a homosexual in a heterosexual relationship isn't natural either. Thou shalt not lie! You deny how God created you. The orientation of love that God gave you at birth is natural to you, and is harmless if you do not abuse another person or lie. That is not perversion, it is love, truth, and nothing else is. Science is now proving that homosexuality is as old as humanity iself. It is there for a reason.
Those who question God's innocent creations, assume a position greater than God. Yee of little faith! Let us follow the bible, the Tora, and the Koran without perverting their words for selfish agendas. If you have committed Adultary, then by the ten commandments and the Koran, you are in mortal sin. You deserve the death sentence by "natural" people throwing rocks at you to your death. Jesus made his famous statement "he who hath not sinned, cast the first stone". Well Leigh certainly did! You shame Jesus, and God in one hateful statement. May the Lord have mercy on you! Those who ate seafood or pork: you are an abomination according to the bible, the Tora and the Koran. Shame on you! Woman who cut their hair, according to the bible, you are whores, you deserve death. That is why many Pentacostal women never cut their hair. Those who lie, cheat, bear false witness, especially for greed, hell awaits you. Should this be Australian law too? Bring on the apartheit according to the laws of the bible, the Tora and the Koran without any perverse excuses, and make this law IMMEDIATELY! Equating paedaphelia to homosexuality ignores the fact that a vast majority of paedophiles are heterosexuals, and commit this abuse within their own families. The statistics prove it! Do we ban heteroxuals for THEIR tendancies? The same stones that you cast against innocent people are waiting for you. Bring it on! Regardless, the world's population will breed on anyway. Posted by saintfletcher, Saturday, 10 June 2006 4:33:40 PM
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A few corrections to neckie & arjay’s posts.
Myth #1 Homosexuality is unnatural & God is against it. Reality: Homosexuality is found extensively in nature. Don't believe me? Try reading these sites. http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm http://www.backyardnature.net/j/o/homosex.htm By the way. Since homosexuality is a part of nature then homosexuals CANNOT influence their children’s sexuality one way or the other. http://www.gaysouthafrica.org.za/homosexuality/familyvalues.asp Since homosexuality is found in nature it follows that homosexuality is natural in origin & CANNOT be unnatural. Let’s face it. According to the evidence homosexuals are born homosexuals [just like any other homosexual animal] and it follows that God CANNOT rationally demand that homosexuals stop being what they are. Why? For the same reason that God cannot rationally demand people stop having red hair & being left handed - they are born that way. And NO ONE, including God, can rationally demand someone do something about how they were born. Myth #3 Homosexuals are trying to brainwash students by teaching them that homosexuality is natural. Reality: As we’ve just seen there is a LARGE amount of evidence that homosexuality IS a part of nature. That being so how can it be brainwashing to teach students the facts? Another point to consider. Since some of those students will be homosexuals it follows that those homosexual students should be taught that homosexuality is part of nature. How? Through age specific means. For kids little kids it could be cartoon pictures of a child with two mothers or fathers. For a teenager it could be a story about a homosexual child facing someone like neckie in his daily life :D Such stories hardly destroy a child’s innocence. Rather they teach the child about reality in a non-threatening fashion. What about the dangers of turning the child into a homosexual? I’ll deal with that issue in my next post. Posted by Bosk, Saturday, 10 June 2006 5:01:49 PM
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However, I am not going to take that fundamentalist view here, because we do not live in a world where Christian views should have primacy: Attempting to make others conform to Christian beliefs is bound to fail.
Hence, I am not against gay relationship / gay marriages: but neither am I for them. The government is not 'Christian' as we live in a secular democracy. Hence purely moral issues, between adults acting out of informed consent, where no one is 'harmed' beyond what they have consented to, is none of the government's business.
Therefore I a am also not in favour of laws about morality, such as against prostitution, so long as the workers are working from a position of informed consent. I would prefer that prostitution as an institution not exist, but it does, and Christians are never going to stop it.
the best way that Christians can act, IMHO, is to improve their own lives, and tell others what God would have them do, without trying to force anyone to do it.
Marriage in this society has failed, if religious institutions want to conduct ceremonies that have meaning to the participants, so be it, but the government, at all levels, should butt out, with the exception of ensuring that people who chose to participate in marriage, and children, should be treated fairly when those relationships break down.