Kevin Donnelly is never short of detractors. Presumably, most of them are products of the dud education system he reports on.

Our shambolic state education system was stuffed up by the last three Labor governments and, the last three Coalition governments appear not to be interested in it; why would they when they can bring in "skilled" workers and professionals like doctors who can speak and understand English just as badly as the local losers we are turning out - for far less money.

Unless your kid is particularly bright and keen enough to learn, despite the dumb curriculums"; and, unless you have the money to send him or her to a decent school, and maintain a continuing interest in the kid, you may as well throw them on the growing heap of failures who can barely read and write, do basic maths, or think for themselves - thanks to the politically correct relativism they have been subjected to by left wing cranks.

The Chinese and Indians must be laughing themselves silly at all this relativistic nonsense. Meanwhile, Newton, Rutherford, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

"How about looking at the arguments, instead of having a go at me?"

Kev, you have been banging on with these arguments so relentlessly for so long that you have come to embody them. When people think you're a fossilised loon it's because you've come to symbolise a bunch of values in education which largely reflect your highly subjective, antiquated view.

Well Kev,

This OBE stuff from the web site you stated actually looks quite good. Imagine teaching social skills to a child! What an interesting concept. Teaching them skills that will help them in gaining employment, and questioning the false and limiting morality of the past and replacing that with more tolerant and liberal world views.

Of course Kev, you forget the crucial role that parents have to play in raising their children. Only a fool would entrust any school system to actually teach their children. Parents must be involved from early in the child's development in teaching and not rely upon a school to teach your "Reading, Righting and Rithmatic" - your "three R's".

Education only begins with post-grad studies. Before that it's just baby-sitting.

"That does not mean the Shakespeare is less literature, but be honest it is hardly relevant..."
So what is the answer? Is it nobler of the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune? Or is it better to take up arms against a sea of troubles, and by fighting, end them?

shorbe

"The Chinese and Indians must be laughing themselves silly at all this relativistic nonsense. Meanwhile, Newton, Rutherford, etc. must be rolling over in their graves. "

That would have to be on the list of silly post for this site I think you should go and read about the world view of these culture and how the western Science is in many areas coming to the same conclusions. By the way Newton and Rutherford are just two of the father's of modern relativistic scientific world view. The act of observation changes and forms our reality and it is often not the same for each observer.

The line to take here is Newtons “laws of gravity” are still used when you want a simple answer and we use Einstein’s relativity when we want the more accurate one. So if you want simplistic answers the subscribe to the fixed frame ideas of the past or if you want real answers then prepare yourself for the truth…..

For Kev there may well be many teachers that think like you but you have to concede there seems to be many more that don’t. You do your argument a disservice by seeming not understanding why they don’t agree with you.

Where does the electron go when it’s tunnelling shorbe?