When the nut jobs start lobbing
Surely near the point. Why the nut jobs how do they arise in a democracy with the fourth arm fulfilling its role of informing. Man is a cooperative creature, we would not be here otherwise, early experience plus gene effects establishes the pattern. Does this mean the leaders Bush, Sharon et al have a twist in their upbringing? A long term research aim. Will not solve why the electorate accepts the bilge dished out or do they not read it? Some points contradicted within the same media outlet surely raising a query.
Yes dead and the argument is ended but since man has been so clever in tackling problems, though perhaps not so clever as to see consequences, Global warming or downside to nuclear knowledge, cant we find out how the nuts come to the top and why? Why can investigations which few seem to deny show that the bosses have acted in satisfaction of what at least is a misplaced possibility, world control on the basis of exceptionalism a duty to ’help the world’ or to exclude others from lands. Only compromise and sharing gives a longer term stability. Maybe we just enjoy vocalising our sorrow our outrage, over shattered bodies, children without parents or countryside without trees

Our great god Noam/Gaia/Gore/etc, who art in Berkley, says that to raise oneself above the processing level of the common herd... Tubs stopped there, didn't really understand the rest.

Best to drive SUV down to the Burger King (over the skulls of the wretched and unwashed) and contemplate some third world misery that will result from scoffing that triple cheese bacon burger with extra bacon. Laughing.

And.. there I rest the case for those who 'have no case' :)

I rather deliberately constructed a scenario which made me vulnerable to the same charges re Australias indigenous people. I'm surprised no one tweaked to it and gave me curry about it.

So, the broader thing is of course, 'where do we draw lines in the sands of history' ? In the absense of a better argument or historical evidence, it would appear 'might' takes the prize.

But the noteworthy aspect of 'power' is its transient nature. Todays powerful may well be tomorrows down and out.

Amos prophesied against the following cities. "You will be destroyed"

Damascus
Gaza
Ashdod
Tyre
Edom
Moab

A glance at an atlas will show they are in a circle around Israel.
Each one had their 'day' of power and abused others disgracefully.
Within a number of years, they were ALL destroyed.

Before we get too cocky, and suggest that he was speaking against those cites because he was a Jew and they were Israels enemies, he ALSO prophesied against Israel/Judah.

"For three sins of Judah,
even for four, I will not turn back {my wrath}.
Because they have rejected the law of the LORD
and have not kept his decrees,
because they have been led astray by false gods, [b]
the gods [c] their ancestors followed

And so, Judah/Israel was also judged, but not in a 'terminal' way.
They were to be restored.
Notice the other nations just acted cruelly, Judah's sin was 'rejection of God'.... are we guilty of this today ?
What will happen to a nation which rejects God ?

You've got to feel sorry for poor old Ted. I can see him now, having just read the above gibberish, muttering to himself, "Boaz - Thy friendship oft hath made my heart to ache. Do be mine enemy - for friendship's sake."

Folks, forget the religious bulls...and look at the facts. Irael has Le Bomb and if history is any guide they will use it first. Playground struggle shows he who gets the first punch in is likely to win.

The silly dangerous Americans are also likely to allow themselves to be sucked in, throwing their wealth and sanity away in another unwinnable war.

Better to let Iran have Le Bomb and the electricity. Better to increase their wealth which history shows decreases religious fervour. A cold war against another Isalmic Arab nation is stupidity on the grandest scale, but Israel is nervous and their mentor America is has a case of paranoid psychosis.

And our own Australian president seems to absorb American paranoid psychosis by osmosis.