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Social democracy - not dead yet: a response to Clive Hamilton : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 4/4/2006

Social democracy still has more to recommend it than the 'Third Way' has.

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G.T.
I am embassesed for you, who owns the business indeed, who makes the money for the business? The worker of course. Give this subject a miss, and go on to something you "know" something about. A reread of Bushbred's last post may help you realise that your attitude is so unAustralian, that you are probably from German heritage.
Posted by SHONGA, Saturday, 6 May 2006 3:47:43 PM
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Productive workers do create wealth, and they get paid for doing so. The employer gets paid his share for putting it all together in to a final product. So why is intervention needed, again?

Besides, none of this changes the fact that a business owner owns their business, and nobody else has a right to dictate how that may be run.
Posted by G T, Sunday, 7 May 2006 3:19:40 AM
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Great article, Tristan
Posted by daggett, Sunday, 7 May 2006 10:56:37 PM
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Thanks, daggett - I appreciate that. It's nice to think that one's work means something to some people.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Sunday, 7 May 2006 11:45:26 PM
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G.T.: Firstly, whilst I think I might know why you're still trying to debate this twit, I think you're hitting your head on a brick wall. More than anything, he seems to be trying to wind you up.

Anyhow, as to your response to my question...

Isn't this example a little different to most scenarios though? The problem with a road is that your driveway only connects to that one road, so there's no possible alternative (tunnels, overpasses, etc. could be I guess, but it would seem like they'd be quite difficult and expensive and I wonder if anyone would really go into such a venture). As such, the owner of that road sort of has you over a barrel. Of course, you could always sell your house and move, but who would want to buy into such a situation, so how would you sell without taking a massive loss?

In new suburbs or cities, it would be much easier to do, and people could perhaps set up collectives. However, I'm still a little dubious about whether these would really be entirely voluntary, or rather, if entirely vountary systems could or would function adequately (especially if a few people in key locations proved uncooperative).

Also, I think another objection might be that human nature being what it is (especially in this country!), a lot of people would probably get sick of a free market system and would actually want "government". That would be all well and good if they left everyone else alone, but unfortunately, just like religious zealots, it's never a case of leaving people alone.

I'm sympathetic to the libertarian cause, but I think there are still problems with aspects of it. I don't have any solutions or alternatives though, only more questions.
Posted by shorbe, Monday, 8 May 2006 10:59:59 AM
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