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By Stephen Hagan, published 23/3/2006Ignoring an elderly, sick lady lying on one of our city streets is a sad reflection on Australian society.
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Posted by King Canute, Thursday, 30 March 2006 12:48:15 AM
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that sounds a bit jumbled - sorry, I had to chop out chunks to fit in and it lost it's flow
the point I was getting at is that colonial psychology is not just the problem of the christians, who create their religion in their own image, it is the same as socialists, feminists and environmentalists, and the rest of migrant society. here is an essay I wrote which may explain better, Neo-colonialism in Australia A non-Aboriginal perspective on neo-colonial illusion and reconciliation with Aboriginal Australia http://johntracey.blogspot.com/2005/12/neo-colonialism-in-australia.html Posted by King Canute, Thursday, 30 March 2006 5:20:23 AM
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King Canute, this is about an indigenous lady. I would urge you to not to use this forum to push your christian wheelbarrow where the only link to the indigenous is that both are fading out being vestiges of different times.
Posted by Remco, Thursday, 30 March 2006 7:07:28 AM
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No mine is definately not a christian barrow. It is an exploration of why an aboriginal woman would be left lying on the ground. I reckon it has something to do with a generalised racism. this racism is directly related to psychology, both individual and collective. That's about as far as most discussions about racism go. This is all within what some call the judeo/christian ethic. the J/C ethic however has nothing to do with the morality of Jesus and his contemporaries, and it certainly has nothing to do with Aboriginal paradigms which might identify spirituality as a more accurate word than psychology. This spirituality in essence is to allow the heart to drive the head rather than the other way around. How is this relevant to the lady on the footpath?. The japanese people who stopped probably had a lot going on in their head -lectures, assignments, family problems etc. However their hearts were moved and all that was made second priority while they assisted that lady. Everybody else had their head too full of everything else to even notice her let alone put their own daily agenda on hold long enough to help someone in need.
This is the nature of white/black relations in Australia generally and collectively. No government indigenous programs or policies will work until they are driven by spirit - the spirit of this country, not the kind the missionaries brought. Posted by King Canute, Saturday, 1 April 2006 8:08:54 PM
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and if I was a christian, which I am not, what would be wrong with a christian perspective or an Islamic perspective, Hindu, Buddhist or Jewish perspective on this issue being presented?
I think they are all illusions, but I wouldn't go as far as to say I won't listen to that perspective. please clarify the appropriate ideological framework for this discussion. A spiritual discussion in Australia, not dominated by christians, may well be what this nation needs so that all the other people on the footpath in cities around Australia, right now, white and black may also be assisted Posted by King Canute, Saturday, 1 April 2006 8:17:00 PM
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Walking past anyone on the ground even if they were drinking how hard is it to stop and make sure they are at least breathing, but not to even bother to stop and check wow how low,SHAME on all who walked past and all who looked the other way.And we call ourselves Australian, If it were not for our elders we would not exist,grow or learn. SHAME on you Australia..This lady needed your care...AND YOU FAILED!
Posted by T Hagan, Monday, 3 April 2006 6:37:45 PM
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Christians use words from the sacred texts of ancient tribal palestinians to describe their own european-industrial-capitalist-nuclear family culture. This culture is created by mammon and the media, with a very heavy dose of sexual repression and it's inevitable consequence of sexual predation - even priests and nuns, not just gangster rappers or old men in Aboriginal communities that someone saw once. By the way, to that writer, was that old man in contact with missionaries in his formative years?
The christians are so blind that they know nothing of the spirituality and holy places of Jesus the palestinian. Yet they can prattle off doctrines about biblical interpretation until they become white in the face.
This ethno-centrism is not just christians. socialists too, while the first Australian trade unions were being formed the last of the remaining Aboriginal people were being rounded up into internment camps. The unions said nothing.
european feminism ideologically tends towards disconnection from men. This has been confused with "women's business" which is about how women and men relate to each other collectively by way of connnection, including men's and womens own exclusive places, laws and times in the extended family,. when feminist models are applied to Aboriginal domestic violence sufferers, e.g. hide the woman and cut off communication which is standard security procedure in the refuge methodology, they cause disconnection which makes cultural healing, including women's business, to stop until the woman, and the man, and everyone else are reconnected properly through community process. Ideological feminism makes domestic violence worse in Aboriginal commnities. Just like the christian's did with sexual assault.
And the greenies, protecting the untouched wilderness. Today's national parks, for example, since the traditional owners were killed or put in missions have simply become overgrown untendered gardens, sleeping infernoes waiting to ignite. Greenies talk of bush conservation but since time immemorial aboriginal people have lived in and managed the bush, not "conserved" it and restricted access.
open-mindedness, not cultural blindness. http://www.kalkadoon.org