Non GM Farmer,
Oh dear "another" poor old farmer story, does the NFF run courses in whinging, or does it just come natureally, not GM, if we could GM farmers to stop the constant whinging and whineing, what a step forward that would be.

Maybe the next project for the C.S.I.R.O if it survives, should be to geneticly modify farmers, to stop their constant bleating.

Who's whingeing and bashing scientists!?
Oh of course... you think that farmers should be complacent and if a farmer actually stands up and tries to flick the industry parasites off our back, it is called whingeing! I was explaining how ridiculous a lone "science based" approach is when making political decisions and I don't see why we should be subsidising the corporate sector by accepting the liability for economic loss associated with introducing a GM crop we don't want and don't need.
And no, I'm not bashing scientists, the debate is not about scientists abilities, it is about scientists funding and I am not alone in bashing the way funding (except farmers funding) influences outcomes. CSIRO receives GRDC money for some projects so it is relevent to the debate.
Sajo had a whinge about the "continuous denegration, poor job security and below average salary" and whined on implying that I did not appreciate the efforts of scientists. Well where exactly did I mention that? The discussion was about the funding, not the abilities of our scientists.
I realise scientists are very sensitive people and not used to farmers questioning what they are doing or how much we are paying but they need to get over that and actually listen to what the debate is about. There is no need to be so emotive, debate is healthy to expose and fixing the problems.
I , and most other farmers, actually share your disgust at some of the public whingeing that is done by NFF but I would be interested in what triggered your whinge about whingeing.