Greg talk to the King of the Shock Jocks one Mr Alan Jones,he has been pushing the barrow for the mentally ill for years. Are you just a Barnsey come lately or have you too discovered electrodes in your undies,that makes you scream discrimination.

Do you know Greg why there is no money for the mentally ill?Well lefties like you made it too easy for people to get on social security and now much of our tax dollars go into paying able bodied people not to work.So go and look in your own back yard for some home truths.

Health care AND treating people as dignified morally responsible human beings.

A sentence proportional to the crime bestows dignity on the offender i.e, treating someone as a full fledged moral human being rather than as a mentally diseased victim who is far from a functioning human.

Why can't we have Kant AND Klonopin?

Which means punishment and opportunity to rehab. So an ordinate amount of $ for both.

Why are there less suicides, less theft during times of war and other hard times? Probably bcz everyone else is doing it tough, so we don't feel sorry for ourselves and aren't envious believing we've missed out.

I wonder how many leave school understanding the 7 deadly sins and the cardinal virtues. Are we leaving them defenseless against their own nature?

Paraphrasing CS Lewis poorly - the state of human nature is that its elements are at war with itself i.e. its in a constant state of civil war.

Martin lbn Warriq," Why is there less suicide and crime in times of war?" Your reply is not the entire answer.When the survival instinct comes into play it also knocks the BS out fo our lives.A major problem is that the "Nanny State" doesn't make people rersponsible for their own lives.Going back to our tribal existence people were in a constant state of survival and emotional bonds between tribal members were being constantly tested and reinforced.

Today we have the super tribes where people are lonely and isolated,and cannot reinforce their need for tribal bonds,get stressed and suffer mental illness.So if we are feeling gregarious and in need of some bonding ,we go to the football instead.

It is not much the stress and danger in life that causes mental illness,it is the lack of social bonding ,loneliness,no self esteem and not having a real purpose in life being the main contributors.

To a large extent the "Nanny State" has stolen these things from us.

My husband was released from Long Bay Hospital Area 2 Tuesday 7th June 2005.

My husband attempted suicide twice and was in prison for purchasing a firearm (to assist him in shooting himself).

He was sent to Long Bay Hospital Area 2 under a court order to have a 6 week psychiatric assessment. During this 6 week period he was not seen by a counsellor, doctor, psychologist or psychiatrist. The only observation of my husband was by corrective officers.

After 4 weeks I became anxious as no one had been to see him and he was due to appear in court on the 7th June. I did not want him to have to return to Long Bay for the same assessment through no fault of his own and because he really required urgent psychiatric help.

I paid for an independent psychiatrist, at a cost of $1320

I emailed the Premier, Bob Carr and also the Justice Minister, John Hatzigertos, to complain about his non-treatment. I knew the judge was going to ask for the report from the prison psychiatrist as well as my privately acquired one.

My emails worked because on the 4th June he was transferred back to Long Bay and was finally seen, on Sunday morning 5th June at 10am for about ½ hour, by their psychiatrist. The report arrived at court on time.

My beef is “why wasn’t he seen by a single mental health professional during his court ordered 6 week stay”.

He was committed to James Fletcher Psychiatric hospital in Newcastle for 10 days and was given no treatment or observation until the day prior to him appearing in the Supreme Court for the rifle charge.

When I was waiting in the visitors waiting area of Long Bay Hospital Area 2 I would hear the same stories over and over again. So don't think that when a mentally ill person is sent to jail by the court they are going to get help because they don't.

My husband is now home and receiving privately paid help and has returned to work.