Hi Martin
Well I'm glad you did pay the correct amount. You'll notice that I said "If you had flown from Sydney..."
I presume it went to planting a tree or something to mitigate the effects of the CO2. Which shows that even if there is a problem with CO2 emissions we have a way of off-setting them. Of course it costs us a bit more, but anyway, I don't mind paying a little more for my electricity or whatever to help the planet. That is, if CO2 really is a problem. Is it really? Or will it just help more plants to grow faster?
One cannot compare heart surgery with climate change. A more apt comparison might be with those computer models that people use to predict the outcome of horse races.
I refer you to the list of climate change dissenters (previously posted) and some of their criticisms, which you have not been able to deny.
A case in point is the situation in the Arctic regions, which is often used by climate change advocates to advance their ideas about global warming.
If you go to the link below you will see that a large number of climatologists put these changes in the Arctic down to natural causes, and nothing unusual. These are not my words, but those of the climatologists who have studied the situation. The comments of these scientists are particularly revealing.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2004/12/10/open-letter-to-senator-mccain/

I presume that you are not going to go against these scientists, seeing that you have such faith in them.
Maybe after reading these comments you can understand why a layman might be a little sceptical.

Froggie and Angle,

Thanks for your time. You both contest that I have not been able to deny your, erm, climate experts. I, and other readers, I reckon I have.

Have you produced one climatologist who has recently “published” or world leader who has “said” that anthropocentric forced climate change isn’t happening? Nope.

Fiction writers, political web sites, conspiracy sites, right wing media figures, lobbyists and (from your earlier and latest list Froggie) scientists “who are not actually denying climate change” is all you can come up with.

Did you even look at the US and Australian Government web sites?

You guys are not layman though, don’t misrepresent yourselves. It takes a special effort to deny every government in the world, every scientific body and common sense to adopt the arguments, such as they are, for climate change denial.

The scary thing is, I hope you’re right. I truly hope climate change isn’t happening. The world could really do with one less major problem. So I would love to see evidence to this end, which is why offering me fiction writers just saddens me.

Martin

PS I had to laugh at the worldclimatereport.com’s mission statement:

This popular web log points out the weaknesses and outright fallacies in the science that is being touted as “proof” of disastrous warming. It’s the perfect antidote against those who argue for proposed changes to the Rio Climate Treaty, such as the Kyoto Protocol, which are aimed at limiting carbon emissions from the United States.