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Homeless and in Darwin - no peace in the long grass : Comments
By John Tomlinson, published 28/11/2005John Tomlinson argues no-one has addressed the Long Grass People’s needs in the Northern Territory.
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Posted by pariah, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 12:51:14 AM
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Pariah,
And strangely enough if you look at the interim guidelines between police and the ombudsman - you will find that despite the RCADIC recomendations police are delegated the ombudsmans investigative jurisdiction to investigate police. Therefore once again the NT police have complete ownership of the polic complaints process. The effect of which is that despite the NT having similar rates of complaints (/1000 members) as other jurisdictions, it has the LOWEST rate of disciplinary or criminal actions resulting from these investigations. The Interim Guidelines (nb see especially s.8.4.4.) http://www.nt.gov.au/omb_hcscc/ombudsman/publications/app910001.pdf The role of the ombudsman in th epolice complaints process http://www.nt.gov.au/dcm/omb/pdf/NT%20Police%20complaints%20Process%20report.pdf Moreover, by this delegation, any evidence provided to the PRD investigation does not (apparently) have to be provided to a court, unless the other party can establish that the decision of PRD was made in bad faith. NB> I wonder if such a decision would be judicial (R v Rogerson)? If the action is prima facie illegal the executive can not authorise or condone it (A v Hayden) nor may the judiciary (Coco v R; Plenty v Dillon). If so, obviously such a decision could not be investigated by the ombudsman (Booth v Dillon; Glennister v Dillon), or presumably a delegate thereof? Posted by Aaron, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 1:56:11 AM
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For the record:
Larrakia Nation is a credible organisation with a commitment to supporting and assisting people visiting or moving to Larrakia country. Larrakia Nation is not being co-opted to provide night or any other kind of patrol services. Larrakia Nation is not at all interested in this type of service. The organisation is however, about to begin provision of an intervention and transport service. The intervention will be based on a case work model - assisting people living in the long grass to meet their own identified goals. The transport will be in the form of a booking system for mini bus services to ensure people in the long grass are able to access services as identified in their goal setting and in vehicles appropriate to the need. Larrakia Nation has offered support services to people in the long grass for the past two years and are rolling those previous services over into a package of intervention and support to ensure that people have access to the services they may need. Any who would like to know what we are doing and how we are doing it are welcome to contact the organisation Posted by lnch, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 2:31:42 PM
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If only the aboriginal children could be properly educated and trained for real jobs, in time many of the present problems would vanish.
Same goes for white children . Unfortunately all the outcry about "the stolen generation" has insured that children will never be removed from disfunctional families again and such children are as good as lost anyway. While we import workers to fill vacancies in the workforce, generations of Australian children are given no opportunities to have a future. It is only time and education that will put everyone on an even plane. It has to be more than a pipedream. Posted by mickijo, Thursday, 1 December 2005 1:54:49 PM
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Let the world still be told nothing much has changed.The Aboriginal (nation) not people,are still in the gutter of white society like it or not.A few weeks ago I surfed the net and came across a South African website,and was astouded to read some of the comments made by white South African EXPATS,about the Aboriginal Nation,and their comments were so typical of of the days going back to apartheid.Some of these EXPATS not being satisfied that they ran away from South Africa on the chicken run as it was termed,but what amazes me they did not leave their ignorant racists mentality behind oh no they seem to be spreading their racial opinions and trying to covert some gullible Australians to their way of thinking about the Black South Africans.in other words spreading the gospel of the now defunct Nat/goveerment.Also go to any International Cricket or Rugby Union game,when it happens to be teams from South Africa playing here,listen to their comments and make up your own mind.It even happened with the Brits cricketers,as they too have a racially mixed team.A social worker speaking to me some time back,when she was told that I came from there,told me the following,she had to visit a female from South Africa,and the (lady),should say women told her the following.I miss the old days back in South Africa,if I wanted a cuppa at anytime during the night I just press a button to call my maid to come and make me a cuppa,this I cannot confirm,but the female social worker seemed to be genuine about her story Note to Editor please edit this if you so wish
Posted by KAROOSON, Monday, 12 February 2007 12:39:40 PM
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Let the world still be told nothing much has changed.The Aboriginal (nation) not people,are still in the gutter of white society like it or not.A few weeks ago I surfed the net and came across a South African website,and was astounded to read some of the comments made by white South African EXPATS,about the Aboriginal Nation,and their comments were so typical of of the days going back to apartheid.Some of these EXPATS not being satisfied that they ran away from South Africa on the chicken run as it was termed,but what amazes me they did not leave their ignorant racists mentality behind oh no they seem to be spreading their racial opinions and trying to covert some gullible Australians to their way of thinking about the Black South Africans.in other words spreading the gospel of the now defunct Nat/goveerment.Also go to any International Cricket or Rugby Union game,when it happens to be teams from South Africa playing here,listen to their comments and make up your own mind.It even happened with the Brits cricketers,as they too have a racially mixed team.A social worker speaking to me some time back,when she was told that I came from there,told me the following,she had to visit a female from South Africa,and the (lady),should say women told her the following.I miss the old days back in South Africa,if I wanted a cuppa at anytime during the night I just press a button to call my maid to come and make me a cuppa,this I cannot confirm,but the female social worker seemed to be genuine about her story Note to Editor please edit this if you so wish
Posted by KAROOSON, Monday, 12 February 2007 12:46:55 PM
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The NT Labor government are not doing nearly enough to tackle the problems faced by the people with the lowest social outcomes in the Northern Territory.
Black incarceration rates are disgusting and obviously imprisonment is ineffectual.
"THE Northern Territory has a higher prison rate than international crime hot spots Kazakhstan, Belarus and South Africa."
"The Territory had the highest inmate increase in the country during the past year -- four times the national average."
"The Territory's jail rate is 580 per 100,000 people compared to the national average of 154 per 100,000."
http://dimc.axxs.org/?action=newswire&parentview=4849
Aboriginal people comprise 80% of the prison population here, and of those, about 80% are from rural communities.
The links between poverty, marginalisation and imprisonment are well established. There are very few rich non-Aboriginal people in the Berrimah and Alice Springs detention centres.
Mass programs in Health, Education and other forms of empowerment have been successful in other countries. Most notably in countries with a fraction of our resources. Cuba and Venezuela spring to mind. Teaching people to read and write and ensuring basic health care are not beyond our physical ken, so obviously there are other reasons to keep Aboriginal people in thrall.
And they are all to do with money.
The Aboriginal 'communities' are not run by Aboriginal people despite the 'self-determination' rhetoric of the 70's - which we are told failed. It's 'failure' is due to it never existing.
What is happening now is just the latest version of the genocide and dispossession that led to the present day conditions of Aboriginal people.
'Blaming the victims' - (a phrase now decried as somehow derogoratory - "victim mentality" etc...) is still the most succinct way of describing detractors, who seem to believe that Aboriginal people should "take responsibility" for white invasion and the horrendous physical and cultural impact it created.
When I read the revisionist rubbish that passes for 'academic' rebuttals of European causality for the contemporary plight of many Aboriginal people - I wonder are the authors blind or mad?
I can see the results all around me.
http://onemiledam.org/