Gosh, Rainier, that was a deep, deep post. It immediately prompted me to see the error of my ways. Is that the best you can do?

Right on Redneck

I guess instead aboriginals should assimilate and get in with the petrol sniffing, rampant substance abuse, domestic violence, thievery, and raped children that are social blights endemic in white culture.

You must live in a different world to me a wonderful world where everything is so perfect they can point the finger at any one else.

Not all whites see the world in the narrow vision you continually project.

As for your post it has nothing to do with the article written by Stephen - you just can't resist the opportunity to have a go at aboriginal people, regardless of whatever POV they may be expressing. Therefore, I don't believe for a nanosecond you regard indigenous people as your people - any more than I do. I'm white , I only know three indigenous people well enough to call them my friends - maybe if I lived exclusively with aboriginal people I could regard them as my people.

Have you given any consideration to Stephen's article at all? If so then what do you think of the issue of land rights as a commodity? If you had actually given consideration to this article you would not have written:

"Stephen Hagan's opinion piece was typical of the loony left's lessaize faire attitudes to aboriginal welfare. If aboriginal society is dysfunctional, then it is all the white fellas fault. Therefore, the white fella should cough up even more money implementing social programs to alleviate it."

This extract from your post proves how little of Stephen's article you understood. If so you would know that Stephen was not asking for more money.

Redneck, like any community on this planet - not all members agree w/each other, it appears from Stephen's article that some members of the aboriginal community are picking up some of the worst of 'white' behaviour and that is what he has written about. You didn't notice any of that did you? Just another chance to rip into a culture you know nothing about.

If you claim that white society is equally as dysfunctional as aboriginal communities living in their apartheid states then you must be down the garden dancing with the fairies, Trinity old mate.

My post had everything to do with Stephen Hagan’s post. Unlike you, I can see through the smokescreens of ideological wishful thinking to get straight to the core of the matter under discussion. Stephen Hagan does not want aboriginal culture to change. He wants all aboriginals to live in self imposed semi Stone Age isolation from the real world with their welfare entirely dependent upon Australian taxpayers. That this has been a disaster for the aboriginal people is so self evident that the more intelligent aboriginal leaders are questioning this noble, but Quixotic policy. But some aboriginal leaders are more concerned about their own self aggrandisement and the present unacceptable situation suites them just fine. So they do not want their people to change. Even the much respected Royal Commissioner Justice O’Keefe has stated has that too many aboriginal leaders are “ripping off their own people.”

I agree that aboriginal land should be considered an asset that they can use as a commodity. The sooner we get aboriginal people over this “spiritual” attachment that they have to land the sooner they can progress. For heaven’s sake, a tribe of Indians in the US claimed that if humans landed on the moon it would be the end of the world. Should the Americans have cared about the Indians cultural sensitivities or should they have taken the “giant leap for mankind.”? It is high aboriginal leaders took a "giant leap" in their thinking.

I resent your imputation that I simply enjoy denigrating aboriginal people. I presume that such a libellous charge is nothing more than the usual rabid invective of the politically exquisite. That said, I am sure that you are a modest man, Trinity, with much to be modest about.