Companies have already the structures to accomodate the dismissal of a person.

Their company guidelines and procedures that are the training tools for the employee lays out perfect scenarios in business.

Unfortunately no business is perfect and therefore the company review system expels their unwanted.

What was interesting was Peter Costello arrogance with regards to the statistic analysis done on business with regards to the IR being approved and how this would impact their business on employing more people?

80% of business said it would make no different but a certain 17% said they would. Under a fair and just government majority would rule. But not our Peter Costello. His attitude was that it would mean that 17% of business would and that would be more jobs better than nothing in outcome of the changes.

Huh!

Mollydukes: Why should we, or any would be workers in Australia be treated any different to say the factory fodder in China a place we seem to so love to support in our shopping habits? IR reform is not about our individual rights, just listen to our leaders. It’s about our long term industrial competitiveness.

I suggest some in this discussion grew up in an aberration of good times and my drift in the previous contribution was more about getting used to the whip cracking than being too bothered about what we thought we had. After all somebody here actually voted for this regime and they got what they deserved.

On another note: nobody has spent more time on the grass outside the factory gate debating strikes over principles than me. Rolling campaigns across states cost my family dearly during peak periods of major industry automation.

Some of us just melted away and became one man contractor outfits. But for the most we still carried up to date union cards, partly to support our mates and their reps left behind struggling with the change.

The smart ones I knew started to employ others and a few never looked back. Today they would have fully adopted IT as we know it. The Bill Gates of this world moved on from their first job too. I bet unions are irrelevant at Microsoft and so are the courts. Ask Bill. It’s a reality that movers and shakers win the day.

We should be used to that here now. To get a grip on what is happening we must look beyond Telstra to say AWA or the veggie growers and perhaps some private schools then ask; what happened to Sidchrome?

Taz, You didn'read my blog. I was tricked and bullied out the gate. I was only a lad. I was a very good consientious worker. I was signed up the next at another factory based on my work ethic and skill. I even got a reference from from my immediate foreman. You defend actions like those all you want, it doesn't change the fact I was unfairly treated. You say you are unionist but you come accross as a managers' boy. This new IR will allow youngsters all over this country to be treated unfairly. It is as whacky world when a so-called unionist supports that kind of unfairness to workers..