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Corby case a lesson : Comments

By Steven Freeland, published 26/5/2005

Steven Freeland argues that Australians must be made more aware of overseas legal jurisdictions and processes.

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l find Corby's face quite unappealing. l dont get the whole idea that she is attractive. If l go by my intuition, well she just looks, smells and acts dodgy. It doesn't help that she comes from a family that has drug related convictions and who cut a cliched picture of dodgy crims. Her old man looks like a bikey cliche. And frankly she looks like a bit of a dealer cliche herself. She has very shifty eyes. In all her family photos she appears like someone who has seen plenty. Even when she is smiling in those photos, the glare in her eye is not quite right.

Its quite amusing when folks talk about how dumb it would be to take drugs into Indonesia, given the assumed availability of top shelf produce. The basic assupmtion that drug trafficers are intelligent strikes me as a contradiction in terms. The assumption that criminals are intelligent is quite funny. Has anyone stopped to consider that the average criminal is simple and stupid? Year nine dropouts who turn to soft crime as an easy way to get ahead in life aren't likely to be real bright.

Anyway, there's my bit of biased prejudgement.
Posted by trade215, Saturday, 28 May 2005 4:04:21 PM
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More like smuggling gold into Newcastle.
Knowing about cannabis business in this country gives NO INSIGHT into the peculiarities of how that business operates in ANOTHER country. That assertion goes beyond ignorance.

The assumptions being made by people about the Balinese drug trade are brilliantly naive.

Check out this link... http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/25/1116950758469.html?oneclick=true
"Matthew Moore finds thriving demand in Denpasar for Australian produce."

Some choice quotes...

...Westerners in Bali are prepared to pay premium prices for marijuana if they can get it from other Westerners ...to ensure they are not trapped and arrested.

...high-quality Australian marijuana, similar to that found in Corby's luggage, has been sold on a limited basis in Bali for years, but only to Westerners.

... One European man, now in jail ...said he knew of several Australians who had been bringing strong hydroponic marijuana into Bali.

... He said it brought "really good money", fetching about 50 per cent more than Nepalese hashish that is more widely available

... An Australian who says he has lived in Bali for 15 years contacted the Herald several times to say his children were often offered marijuana called "Aussie gold". The man ...said the "hydroponic bud" from Australia sold for $600 an ounce or as much as $20,000 a kilogram.

... Top-quality marijuana in Australia sells for about $8000 a kilogram. (For those who 'know' 20k/8k = 250% more. Doesn't take much more than yr 9 maths for an 'intelligent' crim to brainstorm that one.)

... A Balinese drug dealer ...said he had smoked the Australian "skunk" many times

... He recognised the marijuana as Australian as it was made up of large flowers or buds while the marijuana he sold, from Aceh in north Sumatra or from Malang in east Java, had much smaller buds and a lot of leaf mixed in. (Now there's a reality check about Asian produce for Australian players 'in the know.')

... while there was a lot of marijuana for sale "it's hard for foreigners to get access to it" because they were so fearful of getting caught.
Posted by trade215, Saturday, 28 May 2005 4:26:11 PM
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Corby's face is irrelevant for me. See my post in the other Corby article. I like to think that my neurones are alive and well - even if I am a "baby boomer".
Posted by kalweb, Saturday, 28 May 2005 10:20:50 PM
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Very interesting post Trade215. What you say makes sense. If Corby really was smuggling then she has to be even dumber than the Bali 9.

Given the media attention and the emotion quotient to Corbys case I believe that the fed gov will endeavour to have her serve her sentence here in Australia.

I still find that the sentence doesn't fit the crime.

We really need to reform our attitudes to recreational drugs. As garra has pointed out criminalising these drugs is just creating huge profits to powerful career criminals and results in destruction of many young lives.
Posted by Ringtail, Sunday, 29 May 2005 8:05:18 AM
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Trade215's comments give us a glimpse into the opposite end of the ignorant prejudice surrounding Corby. To base any kind of opinion about the likelihood of Corby's innocence on her appearance or that of her father displays the worst kind of prejuddice that I can think of. The SMH article is interesting, but indicates more about the journalist's quest for dirt than it does about the reality of the drug scene in Bali. Clearly, Trade215 has never been to Bali, while the SMH journo would be advised to check his facts and sources in future.

Last time I was in Bali, there were heaps of drugs available. I have been offered relatively cheap drugs for sale throughout Indonesia, and I doubt that any of them came from Australia.

Besides which, I'd prefer Nepalese hash or Sumatran heads over Australian hydro anytime - and I'm certainly not alone.
Posted by garra, Sunday, 29 May 2005 9:09:53 AM
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I'm sure that there are Indionesians who read our papers and think "Gosh, and they call that justice...good grief, Australians have an "indisputably" corrupt system".

Take for instance that case in South Australia last month, where a prominant lawyer, after a few drinks (four or five, who was counting?) with his mom at a local hotel, got in his four wheel drive, ran down and killed a bike rider, then fled the scene of the murder, finally turning himself in hours after it would be possible for the police to breath test him in reguard to the crime. His punishment? A bit of probation and a fine that amounted to his weekly salary. Meanwhile, we have a dead man and his grieving family. I have a bit of a problem not seeing a corrupt system at play in this, so I don't really expect any other country or people to consider the Australian judicial system as "non corrupt".

Bahhh, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by Buttonbright, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:55:56 AM
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