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'Privatising' Aboriginal land is no panacea : Comments

By Jennifer Clarke, published 15/4/2005

Jennifer Clarke argues privatising Indigenous land must be carefully thought out if Aborigines are not to become land poor.

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DEAR KARTIYA

I see your a new generation libral,that gives freedoms to the un-productive minority,at the expence of the productive majority.

firstly,tell your ''international law'' theorys to some of the hard working and struggling Australian farmers who CANT GET A BANK LOAN FOR MUCH NEEDED EQUIPMENT DUE TO A NATIVE TITLE CLAIM,and whats worse its land that has been in the farmers family for generations,and to ad that insult to them if they obtain the land they sell it for quick ''money'',do your research and you will find cases of this.

secondly,i dont have to worry about Japan invading Australia during world war 11,my grandfather was tortured and starved to death(i proudly display his war medals on my loungeroom wall)in a Japan prison camp,he was a Australian un-breakable ,hard, mans man,however i believe he cried himself to sleep every night becouse of his sacrifice he made to his family.And what was that sacrifice,so his grandsons,which i am one of four,could have DEMORCRATIC FREE SPEACH.

Finally,leave them in their degrading existance,addicted to alcohol,drugs, with high unemployment,domestic violence and no education,and then leave all the excuses to the next generation on why you did not give them self-respect,education,employment and give them,yes,that word again(WICH YOU BELIEVE DOES NOT OFFER THEM ANYTHING AT ALL,HOWEVER ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON WOULD STATE THEY WILL RECIEVE EXACTLY WHAT I JUST PROPOSED)''assimulated''
Posted by al bundy, Saturday, 30 April 2005 7:13:23 AM
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It always takes precious minutes from your life every time you laboriously read uninformed and ignorant comment. So I didn’t, just.
Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 9:25:17 PM
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dear wandi.

unimformend and ignorant,thats fine,as i have said before talk to the average Australian,or maybe not,you might not like what they say,or thier opionins,instead of smart comments,which by the way prove you know nothing of the subject OR show that you cannot dispute my theorys,either way grow up to a be a big boy/girl before you place your comments,if you want to be demorcratic,except others and thier ideas,i do,however i dont acknowledge two line comments with no argument or opionin,it just shows how un-educated a writer is when producing words that a child could structure with more foresight.
Posted by al bundy, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 8:40:58 AM
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Dear Al

your entire argument fails to acknowledge the fact that if not for the racist yet benign polices and practices that came hand in hand with colonisation, aboriginal people/communities would not be in their current dysfunctional state.

more recent practices such as the stolen wages impacted on thousands of aboriginal people and severely limited their capacity to establish an economic base for themselves and their families through the acquisition of assets. even the aboriginal diggers from WWI were denied the right to take up ownership of land as afforded to their non-aboriginal counterparts on return from war. they too gave their lives, their blood, sweat and tears and got kicked in the guts for their efforts and bravery. they too fought for our FREEDOM AND DEMOCRATIC LIFE.

the threat those farmers feel at native title issues is about 1000 times less threatening than how aboriginal people would have felt back in the 17 and 1800's when they were being poisoned and murdered for their land. sob stories about the difficulties faced by famers because of native title issues are just that - sob stories. i dont really care for them coz those 6 or so generations mean nothing in comparison to over 1200 generations of aboriginal peoples connection to this land.

as for the state of people and community is urban areas, again goes back to those past practices and policies which still resound today. eg, aboriginal person applies to rent a house, has a stable job etc etc (plays the assimilation game basically), competes against a stack of white fella's and obviously loses out. why? because racist thought lines tell real estate agents not to rent to aboriginal people. ok, not all aboriginal people do the right thing, but then neither do all white people, or yellow for that matter. point is, racist generalisations are inhibitors to moving forward.

your comments are line with the institutional racisim that is alive and well in australian society, is it any wonder that aboriginal cant get ahead.

by the way, this country is, always ways and always will be aboriginal land.
Posted by kalalli, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 9:38:14 AM
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Simple then if its all yours,DONT TAKE ANYMORE WHITEMANS WELFARE,DONT TAKE A WHITEMANS JOB,DONT WEAR WHITMANS CLOTHS,DRINK OR EAT THEIR FOOD,BASICLY LEAVE WHATS NOT YOURS ALONE,whats that you say,you cant,no of course not,you want the whitemans money however you want to live traditional,it doesant work that way,and if you dont care about Australian farmers,dont take or benifit from thier production.
Its about time the Aboriginal community started being a productive part of this counrty,all you want is take,take,take,its never give,give,give and its a shame you cant see reason,my comments have STARTED a stir,and so they should(thats being demorcratic)however,face the truth,and except that there are some Australians that want to see the Aboriginal community productive,if you dont like it bad luck,and i see your another that cant dispute my claims so you resort to cheap jibes to make a point,another that cant face the truth.
And another thing,generations of farmers can prove thier history,can you prove yours,you better be full blood my friend or basicly keep your comments to yourself,becouse you see i am white,generations ago,i am proud to walk the land that was settled by my ancestors by hard work and sacrifice,and if your not full blood then the lands not yours just as much as its not mine!
Posted by al bundy, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 2:36:47 PM
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Actually, "al bundy", we're leaving you alone because it's pretty obvious that there's a roo loose in your top paddock.
Posted by garra, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 3:19:01 PM
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