Kenny I worry about you, Yes a hetro sex parade is WRONG. NO! I do not hate queers. I said in my letter that I did look at the centre fold in the 'Man Magazine'which in those far off days was porn. Yes I have seen other porn which was not right. How many ANZACS bought and looked at bestiality photos? all of them. a few of them? a very few of them? Bringing in the Anzacs is a pathetic ploy on your part kenny but again to watch bestiality is wrong, very wrong and totally pathetic!No I have never read how to put a condom on I suppose that I saw it as self evident, I suppose I am cleverer than you.Kenny a seat belt on an aircraft is entirely different than a condom. They even fit on different parts of a man's body.I can see now how you may have had problems with a condom, you do not wrap it around your waist Kenny.I do not have a large or even a small porn collection at all Kenny. Kenny neither did I get advice from a virgin but from a being or God who invented sex.
So Kenny you do not know much about me at all eh?

Speaking personally as someone who has recently been through the education system and now in university, seeing the effects of the same rhetoric that was espoused at high school repeated again by the universities, both the official bodies and by the Student associations and unions, I have to agree with a lot of what Alison has to say here.

My fellow teens / ‘twenty something’s’ are more than adequately academically aware of the issues of sex. We’ve seen it, heard it, been there and done that when it comes to sex ed, and the dangers of ‘unprotected’ sex and the consequences of, well shall we say ‘partaking liberally’. We’ve heard enough to switch off when it comes to STD’s, and yet we still act surprised when invariably someone contracts one.
So what’s the problem for my mates from where I stand, admittedly amongst them?
We’ve never been offered an alternative. The ‘educators’ whether that be at uni or high school gave out advice on issues like ‘safety’ and ‘health’ on the one hand, whilst still all but pressuring us to be out there and active, ‘exploring and seeking to understand’ our ‘sexuality’. In a society where everything goes, we’ve always been taught to do what we want, when we want it, and that there are ways out of anything that might be a side effect, and that these consequences (although never labelled that) are a natural thing. So whilst we’ve accepted treatment for weird and wonderful diseases and growths and abortions and whatnot, we’ve never even had it suggested to us that there might be boundaries or guidelines out there in life.

I think that maybe we should reassess the way we ‘educate’ and see that sex is part of our lives, part of who we are, and that there’s more to teaching than simply knowledge, and there’s more ways to live than simply the expedient, perhaps men can be taught to wait… or maybe their all just too selfish…

Life goes on and from an early age we're curious until puberty and then the hormonal urges take hold. The embarrasment of fronting the chemist for a condom and the fear of getting a girl pregnant was what kept me a virgin until I was nineteen.
The religious adherents to Christian fairy tales preach abstinence until marriage and from my experience ,the only sex education their children got was from a bible.....and there is not a lot of sex education in that book..Other than the immaculate conception which really didn't turn me on.
My first sexual experience was not dirty or depraved but a warm loving relationship which was enhanced by mutual gratification.
In a perfect world the facts of procreation of all living things can be relayed to children in biology class and the dangers of unprotected sex and promiscuity are material for older students who at increasingly earlier ages need information.
The role of moral guardian becomes the responsibility of parents but how many parents choose the moment and sit down and talk to their children about 'sex' Most are too bloody scared they might give the kids the impulse to go out and procreate. so they say nothing and the kids find out for themselves by trial and error...
After all they are only human....

Kenny... b4 I forget, pls provide me with an email I can send an important pic to you. (open a short term account if u need to protect your normal privacy) I mentioned it in another thread, but haven't heard from you. U can write to me at jdrmot@bigpond.net.au if u want to give it there. Serious.
Did u look at the first para or 2 in the article ?

==>"they are pregnant because of deep-seated unmet needs. Depression, unresolved grief, family dysfunction and poor parenting commonly drive teens to look to a sexual relationship for replacement love, acceptance and comfort"

Now, there is a good handle to pin some constructive OR destructive criticism on, rather than just playing your usual 'death to religion' mantra. Take that assertion of the author, and either kill it with facts or glorify it with similar facts. It scratches where I itch for sure, not even thinking about religion.

I received an sms from a female friend today, who I KNOW is looking for the kind of love described above, in it she says "I don't know if it was Ian, or Joe, or Marten or etc.. about 5 names of guys she had unprotected sex with, now she is pregnant. That is the result of a society gone wrong. Every DAY we are assailed with the most intense portrayals of 'cool' attractive people on MTV gyrating with all the 'sexual' moves pushing it down our kids throats, 'its good.. do it.. look, we all are into it' etc.. not seeing the real cost and emptiness on peoples lives.

Kenny, intimacy has been hijacked by commmercial interests, sad that you appear to be one of their victims.

I can’t quite put a finger on it, but for some reason whenever I read Kenny’s comments, my support for pro-choice increases. His arguments no doubt bring an inordinate balance to the proceedings.

Maracas: You and your partner have been truly blest and to read your experience was very wonderful and uplifting - THANKYOU very much. Fond regards, numbat