Sigh. Grace, I never suggested that Mark Textor was responsible for the canal. I said that some were blaming him and I doubted that it was his idea. "Textor Crosby are getting the blame for it, but I'd be surprised if they would have made a mistake like that."

Just because he gives advice doesn't mean that it is followed, and just because someone in a campaign he advises push polls doesn't mean he did it.

A pollster who has a polling operation set-up to push poll knows he is push polling. It is quite different from normal polling. For example, they ring as many people as they can and they only push the propositions at people whose vote is undecided. They don't bother analysing the results.

We therefore know that Morgan's and Porter's operations must have been aware of what they were doing. Hardly a red-herring.

Double sigh, Graham, you have again misrepresented the way I responded to your own statements, and unsurprisingly, given your allegiances, you are unable to conduct a rational debate on push polling. No worries, I did not expect to convince you of anything, and will leave this thread to be archived for future reference.