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The Forum > Article Comments > Bluff and bluster: The campaign against wind power > Comments

Bluff and bluster: The campaign against wind power : Comments

By Mark Diesendorf, published 23/2/2005

Mark Diesendorf argues the campaign against wind power comes from those with vested interests.

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On Nov 11th 2005 death by accident and two injured on Suzon Wind Energy Corp, Murray County.

Chandler, Minn death from fall off a 200m wind tower.

[Email on Know Nukes signed Nuke Bob. date 31 March 2006].

Does anybody know of the safety record from wind energy. Expressed as deaths/TJ of generated electricity. So I can compare with other power generating sources as published on the UIC web site.
Posted by anti-green, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:06:57 PM
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Eric try telling all the members of community owned wind farms in Germany and Denmark that they're making no difference to fossil fuel usage.

Wind farms in Australia have only started to be developed in any number in recent years. Your criticisms are premature.

I'll be interested to see if anti-green can get figures for coal miner deaths in China and Russia for starters. Last I heard, annual fatalities were in the thousands.
Posted by Blair, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 4:21:45 PM
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Data from UIC briefing paper 14.

Some coal mining accidents in China.

Place year Number killed Comment

Hongton,Shanxi 1991 147
Henan, China 1996 84
Datong, China 1996 114 Methane Explosion
Henan, China 1997 89 Methane Explosion
Fushun, China 1997 68 Methane Explosion
Huainan, China 1997 89 Methane Explosion
Huainan, China 1997 45 Methane Explosion
Guizhou, China 1997 43 Methane Explosion
Liaoning, China 1998 71 Methane Explosion
Shanxi 2000 40 Methane Explosion
Muchonggou,Guizhou2000 162 Methane Explosion
Jixi 2002 115 Methane Explosion
Gaoqiao 2003 234 Gas well Blow out with H2S
Henan 2004 148 Methane Explosion
Chenjiashan 2004 166 Methane Explosion
Sunjiawan 2005 215 Methane Explosion
Fukang 2005 83 Methane Explosion
Xingning, Guangdong2005 102 Coal mine flood.
Donfeng 2005 164 Methane Explosion
Posted by anti-green, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 5:05:56 PM
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It is precisely Germany and Denmark of which I speak. They do not show reductions of other fuel use in response to substantial wind power "penetration".
Posted by Eric, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 2:03:00 AM
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As you've probably realised Eric, I believe wind farms do have a place in our energy mix and can add to the viability of rural areas. You, nauswea and others are welcome to your opinions and selective arguments. I suspect time will show who is most in touch with reality. Until then we can agree to disagree.
Posted by Blair, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 11:50:44 AM
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Data from UIC briefing paper 14 [continued].

Some coal mining accidents in Russia and Parts of old Soviet Union.

Place year Number killed Comment

Donbas, Ukraine 1980 68 Methane Explosion
Tbilisi, Russia 1984 100 Gas explosion
Dobrnja, Yugoslavia 1990 178
Spitsbergen, Russia 1996 141 Coal mine
Kuzbass, Siberia 1997 67 Methane Explosion
Donbas, Ukraine 1998 63 Methane Explosion
Donbas, Ukraine 1999 50+ Methane Explosion
Donbas,Ukraine 2000 80 Methane Explosion
Kuzbass 2004 47 Methane Explosion
Donbas, Ukraine 2004 36 Methane Explosion

Summary- Comparison of accident statistics.

The order in following list is Fuel,immediate fatalities 1970-72,Who?and Deaths Per TWy electricity.

Coal 6400 workers 342
Natural gas 1200 workers &public 85
Hydro 4000 public 883
Nuclear 31 workers 8
Posted by anti-green, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 2:04:38 PM
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