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Did you want children with that? : Comments

By Tracy Crisp, published 31/1/2005

Tracey Crisp argues that Julia Gillard was damned for not having children, and she would have been damned if she did.

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Boaz,Seeker,Trade,

To me it seems likely that children are born with a natural instinct for both a mother and a father, and large scale attempts at social engineering to remove fathers are always likely to fail in the longer term because of that natural instinct.

- Feminist indoctrination machines eventually fail to convince children and younger people to believe that males are no good.

- Attempts by family law systems to remove fathers from families are now failing in most countries.

- Attempts by single women to do away with fathers by having IVF are failing because the children eventually want to know who their father is.

- Attempts by media organisations to eliminate fathers from media articles (like what was done by the author of this article) eventually fail because most readers still want to know about the fathers.

So the human natural instinct to have a father and a mother is overcoming all attempts at man-made social engineering.

I definitely believe that both the mother and the fathers name should be on the birth certificate, which means that the father can have a DNA test done so that he is fully certain of whether or not he is the father of the child. The mother just nominating whatever male she chooses to be the father is not good enough, as eventually the child will want to know who it's natural father is.
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 7 February 2005 10:12:20 AM
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Mark Cleary a Melbourne editor and writer: from The Age today -
"These days when I hear parents, particularly fathers, gushing over how beautiful and wondrous being a parent is, I must admit I am slightly sickened. For one thing, most of these men find it so "wondrous" because all they really have to do is tousle their kids' hair when they get home from work and read a story before bed.
I know this because I used to be one of these fathers. Ah, back then, parenthood was a magical time.
The truth is, parenthood is an incredibly mind-numbing, energy-sapping and, for the most part, banal experience. Yes, I love my children; but I really have no choice - loving your children is hardwired into most parents. It's just nature's way of ensuring the propagation of the species. The child is usually loved even before it's born.
So I think the myth has to be exploded. If you enjoy cleaning up the same mess you just cleaned up five minutes earlier; if you enjoy answering the same question 12 times in a row; and if you aren't particularly fond of leaving the house - parenthood might just be for you.
But please, don't go around perpetuating the myth that it is a rich, fulfilling and rewarding experience.
Posted by Brownie, Monday, 7 February 2005 11:04:33 AM
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Brownie
it can be a struggle.. yes. But its not a myth that it is richly rewarding and fulfilling.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 7 February 2005 11:21:33 AM
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Brownie,
The article in the Age was just “junk media”. The writer contradicted himself a number of times, and the article has no meaning. There are hundreds of such articles churned out daily. They are a colossal waste of trees.
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 7 February 2005 11:36:47 AM
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