You cynics might be surprised, a Bill of Rights could be closer than you think.

Apparently on their last visit to London John and Janette had lunch with the Blairs... and Cherie was heard giving Janette advice on a career as a human rights lawyer.

Watch this space.

I had to look up the Justice Yeldham reference: and even then I thought the long bow redneck drew re the Bill of Rights and homosexuals would have looked good in the hands of Robin Hood.

I even re read the previous possts to seek out any other references to the homosexual lobby - which I thought was downstairs in a hotel in Oxford Street - just goes to show you what I know.

Still I am not convinced we need a Bill of Rights - I think it unlikely we'd ever get one - but we need the debate. And we need a rational debate that drowns out the some what wierd claims about the sexual orientation of the High Court and homosexual conspiracy theory;- I am sure there are as many dumb gay people out there who think they will get blown up by some terorrist as there are straights

I agree with sneekeepeete.

And we should be careful of who is behind calls for a Constitution, Preambles, a repubic and now A Bill of Rights.

While it would appear that these proposals are progressive they may, in fact, be generated by conservative interests.

I see Greg was very much involved in the republican movement campaign several years back ie Chairing the Australian Republican Movement.

This 1999 campaign just happaned to be headquartered at Malcolm Turnbull's corporate office in Sydney. Turnbull also heavily financed this campaign with his millions.

While Bill of Right(ists) may have the best of intentions their campaign may well be harnessed by others towards more persoanal political ambitions.

Hi Sneaky Peter. So you have not figured out yet that the homosexual loobby is not only the leaders of the ant everything brigade, they are also the most passionate advocates of the Bill of Rights? Do you walk around with your ideological blinkers on all day? It is time for you to take them off and have a look around.

Justice Yeldham is a homosexual who is noted for his trendy lefty viewpoint, and he is also the most dissenting judge that the High Court has ever had. By a very big margin.

Homosexuals are also prominent in the Human Rights movements and the former head of the NSW Anti Discrimination Board was homosexual advocate Chris Puplic. Mr Puplic hastily resigned from the post when suggestions were aired in the press that he had shown inappropriate bias towards his very good friend "Bunny" who was a litagant seeking damages from the Board.

Previous articles in this debate site advocating a Bill of Rights have been submitted by people who have no shame in announcing that they are prominent homosexual civil rights advocates.

Finally the homosexual electorate of Darlinghurst had the highest vote in Australia in favour of a republic in the past referendum. That it also has the highest proportion of cocaine arrests in Australia might give you some clue to the sincerity of the presumed moral superiority of the chardonnay sucking and cocaine snorting inner city trendoids.

Of course, if you do not have the wit to figure all this out for yourself, then I can assure you that I am encouraged by the discovery that my opponents are so poorly informed.

Redneck I have enuff wit to kno Justice Eldham was a Justice of the Supreme Court of NSW not the High Court and his sexual orientation has little to do with much at all. Just as the high, reputedly, number of arrests for cocaine use in Darlinghurst has little to do with anything or for that matter the fact that there may be homosexuals active in Civil Rights/Liberty movements.

And why should there be anyone feel shame about being a civil rights activist and gay?

A bill of Rights is about people not sex.

I dont even advocate a Bill of rights just the fact it needs to be the subject of a reasoned debate and not one clouded by wacky conspiracy theories, irrational fear and prejudice.

I wouldn't worry sneekeepete.

The fringe of society and intolerance of views that "redneck" represents would be of increasing interest to ASIO.

Its no longer as fixated with the extreme left. Its increasingly looking at groups prone to violence of whatever political shade.

In fact one of the UK anti-terror proposals that may eventually be applied hear is language that incites violence.

Thats where increased interest in "redneck" will come in.