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The Iran conflict and the potential collapse of the ‘Greater Israel’ vision : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 12/6/2026

As global support wanes and America looks inward, Israel faces a fateful choice between expansion and integration.

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As an admirer of Donald Trump, I have to say that I am disappointed in his Iran adventure, and his decision to break the rule of never negotiating with terrorists: a decision that has cost him victory.

The mad mullahs, still able to fight back, don't care about the damage to their country - as long as they control it.

Israel will not be “diminished”. Trump should hand Iran over to Israel to deal with. It's their enemy, and they would be better at the job than the U.S has been.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 12 June 2026 9:14:11 AM
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Things might not be so great for Iran.

https://youtu.be/TXxzpIBXSaM?si=kSaPFv6Poo2Mb_aH

I'm at a loss to understand Iran's bargaining power when it's oil export infrastructure could be destroyed in minutes at a time of Trump's choosing. What people don't understand is that Trump's "failure" is more a choice not to cripple Iran's oil exports.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 12 June 2026 9:36:33 AM
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"Pre-1948 Zionism:Theodor Herzl, founder of modern Zionism...."

Pre-1948... Did it start there?
Who was the patron for this venture?
Why was the 1917 Balfour Declaration addressed to Rothschild?

Well... it seems there was this land deal...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sursock_Purchases

>>The Sursock Purchases were land purchases made by Jewish organizations from the absentee landowning Lebanese Greek Orthodox Christian Sursock family, mainly from 1901 to 1925. These included the Jezreel Valley and Haifa Bay, as well as other lands in what became the Mandate for Palestine. These collectively formed the largest Jewish land purchase in Palestine during the period of early Jewish immigration.<<

>>1918 purchase

The Ottomans had refused to authorize numerous sales, such that the Sursocks were unable to sell significant land to Jewish purchasers prior to World War I. In 1912, the Palestine Land Development Company (PLDC) arranged to purchase a large area in the Jezreel Valley from Nagib and Albert Sursock, but the transaction did not complete due to World War I. On 18 December 1918, the agreement was concluded; it covered 71,356 dunams in the Jezreel Valley, including Tel Adashim.<<

http://www.google.com/search?q=Rothschild+land+purchase+in+Palestine
-> Click AI Mode and Read

Google? 'Did Rothschild buy the Jezreel Valley from the Sursock family?'

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Yes, the Sursock family, wealthy Lebanese Christian landowners based in Beirut, sold vast tracts of land in the Jezreel Valley to Zionist organizations, including those funded by Baron Edmond de Rothschild and the Jewish National Fund (JNF), starting in the late 19th century and accelerating in the early 20th century. These sales, known as the Sursock Purchases, enabled significant Jewish agricultural settlement in Northern Palestine.

'The White Van' ABC News 20/20 Preview on Urban Moving Systems and 9/11 Hi-Fivers (Dancing Israelis)
http://youtu.be/fOiCMMMeXE8

War on Terror: General Wesley Clark - 7 Countries in 5 Years
http://youtu.be/-KkNAQIuGZY
"Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran"

The Hidden Hand Exposed?
http://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/2061968319100407849
>>Jared Kushner admits his friend Nat Rothschild was the one who helped him find his new off-the-grid private island in the middle of the Mediterranean while he was on his boat on vacation.<<

Do Trump and Netanyahu work for the same person?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 12 June 2026 11:20:06 AM
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The September 2000 paper "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century", published by the neoconservative think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC), stated on page 51 that the process of transforming the U.S. military was likely to be long, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor".

Key Details Regarding the Document:

Context: The report argued for increased defense spending, maintaining global U.S. preeminence, and transforming U.S. forces to handle multiple, simultaneous theater wars.

The Quote: The phrase "...even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor" is found on page 51 of the document.

Authors/Signatories: Participants included influential defense figures such as Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol, and Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Interpretation: While some commentators, including David Ray Griffin in his 2004 book The New Pearl Harbor, have linked this statement to the 9/11 attacks, others argue it was a rhetorical assertion that major policy changes require a major crisis, rather than a blueprint for bringing one about.

The report is often cited to suggest that the desired military transformation (e.g., in Iraq) required a justification that only a major national security crisis could provide, as discussed in various analyses of post-9/11 US policy.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 12 June 2026 7:19:28 PM
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"You cannot reform a snake. Venom is in its DNA", (Reza Pahlavi)
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 13 June 2026 9:27:16 AM
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Sad to say, but there is a possibility that Trump is losing the plot.

If you are not already aware of what he said to the Communist dictator, Xi Jinping, here it is:

"You’re a great leader, sometimes people don’t like me saying it, but I’m saying it anyway, because it’s true".
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 13 June 2026 11:16:17 AM
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"You cannot reform a snake. Venom is in its DNA", (Reza Pahlavi)

- Well he'd know.

http://x.com/XNews24_7/status/1935370465578729668
'Reza Pahlavi, Iran's exiled Crown Prince, prays at the Western Wall in Jerusalem, a sacred site for Judaism!'

Oops, that's embarrassing ttbn.
Next time come up with someone who isn't a paid Israeli asset.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 13 June 2026 2:14:33 PM
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Trump admires Xi and Putin, he aspires to be just like them. Great leaders in Trumps book, and he wishes he could be the Xi or Putin of America. The idea that the far left, and the far right, are at opposite ends of the political spectrum, is not true, they are very much alike.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 June 2026 5:42:42 AM
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