Hi Ipso Fatso,

You stated "But their approach is wrong because it doesn't produce a calm and progressive society."
My opinion, based on merit is that you can't have a calm and progressive society when it's the target of a U.S. regime change, because these are the exact weaknesses the U.S. uses to salami slice its way to insurrection and blood on the streets using NGO's and civil society groups.

The West co-opts and weaponises the very things needed to build a better society, and makes them malevalent - its foreign interference with 'regime change' being the 'ends' that 'justifies the means'.

That's why I think your argument is flawed.

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Everyone seems to have all these moral arguments.

Tell me why don't Palestinians have a right to defend themselves?

Boy, 14, shot dead by Israeli settlers in West Bank amid escalation in violence
http://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/boy-14-shot-dead-israeli-settlers-west-bank-escalation-violence-rcna342543
'Aws al-Nasaan was gunned down in broad daylight last week at his school, as Palestinians in the West Bank report almost daily attacks by settlers.'

This kind of thing by Israelis happen every day.
If we recognise the State of Palestine as an independent and sovereign entity, why don't we support them defending themselves?

Or is this just a elephant in the room everyone ignores while demanding Iran act the way it's 'supposed' to?
It's not a good idea to attack Iran again, but the deranged occupant of the Whitehouse will likely have another crack.
If Iran gets slapped, they WILL punch back.

[Cont.]
You support regime change, is that support unconditional, just time based?
When does the harm caused in the attempt exceed the method used?

Was it when the U.S. helped engineer the currency collapse last year?
Was it when they bombed the Minab elementary girl school?
Was it when millions of Iranians out of work because the US bombed their industries as mhaze was recently gloating about?
Or was it back in 1980 when the U.S. provided chemical weapons to Iraq to use against Iranians?
Maybe it was back in 1953 with the overthrow of Muhammad Mosedeq?

Is there a timeframe on this foreign meddling or 'screwing with another country' or is it just purely outcome based to be continued indefinitely?
- Until satisfactory results are achieved, like Syria run by ISIS headchopper Al-Jalani and Libya with it's slave markets and all the other countries the West has destroyed (and are now trying to do to Lebanon and Iran) so that no-one supports the Palestinians or can challenge Israels regional hegemony.

Netanyahu's War on Terror is a 30+ year War OF Terror.
Do you know this stuff leads to an increase in western suicide terrorist attacks?

I was not talking about Iran in the middle of the present war.
I was talking about Iran's performance over the last fifty or so years.
I was being general in my view.
I thought that much was obvious.
But I take on board your present assessment of conditions there.
And am pleased to note that you give this in a calm and measured way.

Hi Ipso Fatso,
I know you don't particularly like my harsh commenting where I criticise others.
My comments aren't really against the person, but more about the substance of what they say.

I haven't always had an interest in geopolitics.
I chose sides when the war in Syria began over a decade ago.
I'd started to oppose America's endless wars, but I wasn't as harsh on Israel back then before Gaza.

I've slowly fine tuned my opinions on things.
I just don't support sanctions or overthrows.

People might think I'm this hateful 'anti-Semite' but it's not necessary the whole picture.
Nobody ever asked why I'm so harsh as I am.

I support diplomacy, dialogue and compromise over conflict.
I support working out ones differences without making innocent people pay for it.
I don't support the harm of innocents.

Sanctions are collective punishment of citizens.
mhaze was happy about millions of Iranians out of work.
Leaders won't be going hungry no matter what you sanction.

Overthrows are foreign interference for the purposes of installing a ruler subservient to western interests.
That not soverignty, that's a vassal state.

Nobody ever asked how one might 'correct' these 'bad nations' so-called 'bad behaviour' if we don't have leverage to threaten them with.
I don't have all the answers, but I don't support underhanded stuff.
Ultimately the reason we have this situation is because Israel wishes to expand it's territory.

The U.S. is a declining empire, none of them last forever.
Capitalism goes where the money is and China's now the worlds global manufacturer.

I don't support the U.S. lead Unipolar world order where they make all the rules.
I support a multipolar world order.

Think of the difference being the two being a long table like the Italian made one Putin has in the Kremlim as opposed to a round table.

The unipolar world is the long table with the U.S. sitting at the head, making all the rules (and breaking them)
The multipolar world order is a round table, where everyone is equal and all nations interests are given equal treatment.

The world shouldn't be this zero sum game of goodies and baddies
Where you screw over your neighbour for profit.

Look at this deranged fool.
http://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2050588054461489494

The showdown of great powers shouldn't be a world of winners and losers.
Ideally you want win-wins, where all countries on the planet come out better off, not people sent to die in stupid wars so the elites can maintain their wealth and privilege.

Equality?
Some are made to fight the wars while others profit from them.

I'll tell you what else I believe in.

I think democracy is flawed.

What do I support Labor, Team immigrant voting for more immigrants?
Do I support the LNP, Team Israel, shameless defenders of genocide?
The choice sucks.

I don't really care for this endless battle between the left and right.
Both sides talk unity but all they ever do is disagree.
Achieve little except screw things up and argue for the sake of it.
- We're not getting value for money with this system.

Stupid people going 'You're a leftie' or 'You're a rightie'.
Everyone putting eveyone else in a box, it's stupid.

How about we actually support something that actually can unite us as a sovereign nation?
It's called 'Unity in self-sufficiency'.

Not sending Albo off on a high paid begging tour burning jet fuel to secure 1 days worth of fuel - after he supported the illegal war of aggression on Iran that resulted in Iran closing the Strait.

You see where all this 'easy criticism against a nation of fools (us)', from me comes from?
It comes from NOT SUPPORTING SANCTIONS AND OVERTHROWS and all the BS that comes from it in the first place, and idiot leaders Albo that would support poor policies.
And the other side LNP would've cheered on a war with Iran with even more enthusiasm.

A nation of idiots.
Why would you support something that harms us and is not is our best interests?
We have a political system where both sides support actions that harm us.