We're talking at cross purposes Aries.

The thread article and my posts were examining the reasons for the rise in One Nation's poll based popularity. We weren't talking about the existence of viability of One Nation's policies. That's a very different, although related, issue.

Don't misunderstand - I'm happy to examine why One Nation is so popular and talk about how it is able to articulate the concerns of a third of the country, while not myself being part of that third. As I said above, OneNation isn't, yet, an alternate government. It does have some policies covering the big issues, but no a comprehensive plan for government.

But that wasn't the issue being discussed. Why OneNation is so popular is one thing. What they do with the popularity is quite another.

Supporting Israel is like boarding the Titanic.

Trump, Netanyahu and how war in Iran is reshaping US politics
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-11/iran-war-reshaping-us-politics-trump-netanyahu/106552156

>>New research this week by the Pew Research Centre showed 60 per cent of US adults now have an unfavourable view of Israel, up from 53 per cent last year.

What is more, 59 per cent have little or no confidence in Netanyahu to do the right thing regarding world affairs — up from 52 per cent last year.

Particularly significant is the fact that the majority of Republicans under 50 now have an unfavourable opinion of Israel at 57 per cent, up from 50 per cent last year.<<

If we have a political class that is favourable to Israel, and a populace that does not at all favour Israel, perhaps this is at least a part of the reason for the voter detachment from the major parties.

If you want my vote, you'll have to call Israel out as the main cause of the immigration problems (and a murderous genocidal state at constant conflict), just as much as they are the main cause of the fuel crisis. You'll have to face the fact that clutching to the skirt of the U.S. won't save us in a war, but it might very well get us into one. That their weapons are overpriced useless crap. That both the majors suck, and we need a new path, unity in self sufficiency, not endless democratic argue-for-the-sake-of-it disagreement.
Plus a number of other issues that annoy me.

Otherwise I'm voting informal forever.
I'm not voting for genocide-supporting traitors or the lesser-evil anymore.
I'm voting 'none of the above' and that 'democracy has reached it's use-by date'
- That's my protest vote.

If they want my vote, they are going to have to start earning it.
They're not going to get to take it for granted anymore when I'm forced to choose between 'unelectable' and 'even-more-unelectable'.

Mhaze sorry for the delay in replying as I have been away. If we are at cross purposes it is because I have not made myself clear.

GY states "... but it does not explain the collapse of the state Liberal parties. Something else was missing..." He is explaining / suggesting that the avalanche of support for grievance politics started as a result of the COVID measures introduced by the Scum-mo from marketing, The Liar from the shire government. I contend that the collapse of trust in government commenced long, long before that. The COVID response was the icing on the cake so to speak. For the commentators and strategists to ignore this is akin to ignoring the elephant in the room.

Morrison won an election in May 2019. Covid hit a mere 7 months later.

"I contend that the collapse of trust in government commenced long, long before that. The COVID response was the icing on the cake so to speak. For the commentators and strategists to ignore this is akin to ignoring the elephant in the room."

7 months isn't all that long in my books. If that's the elephant in the room, its a pretty small elephant.

So you agree with me then Mhaze. The COVID crisis wasn't the only thing that led to the collapse of the Liberal party vote. Yep, there were plenty of issues during the Scum-mo from marketing, the liar from the shire's reign of terror, that to point to that alone as 'the elephant in the room' is a stretch too far. But of course, the trust in government began to erode long before Scum-mo's turn. That's my point. That's the elephant in the room everyone is refusing to acknowledge.