"People will act out and do stupid things when frustrated and emotional"

That's true, but in the case of the Bondi shooters, they planned their action over months (?), so that's more indicative of ideologically motivated hatred. Where did that hatred come from? Did their associates approve of what they did? Did they engage in protest marches? What did they get up to in the Philippines?

Albo, in my view, has been a divisive leader by taking a "them and us" approach to indigenous Australians (the voice), misinformation and disinformation, and Jews and Palestinians. In so doing he has allowed hatred to flourish in Australia. I think that Albo has been the enabler of the guy who thinks "Yeah, it was horrible what they did in Bondi, but you can understand their frustration when you see what the IDF is doing to kids in Gaza.".

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Typical roided up cops wanting to act tough and authoritative standing over and talking down to average people.
They had their chance to be heroes.
If a civilian can put himself in the line of fire to try and stop the perpetrators then the police deserve criticism.
Their incompetence gives rise to Jews having their own private armed police force, that's not good.

The intelligence side seems like its just begging for enough public outrage to give greater permission for mass surveillance.

Beyond that, my attitude is 'What is the cause of the conflict?'
And people shouldn't lie to themselves or avoid ugly truths.

As for John, I don't mind him, but I see you two bicker.
I like his attention to detail, and willingness to try and dispel bs
But he waits for facts and doesn't do much working theory, even when one can anticipate some 'If X, then Y' outcomes.

"Are you aware of the current protests in Iran?"
Yes I saw your comment and video the other day and wasn't aware of it prior.

It's a complicated situation, the government is trying to do things differently and give protesters a dialogue mechanism for legitimate protest grievances.

The protests started with legitimate grievances, but there are some protestors amongst them who wish to incite peaceful protests into becoming a bloody conflict.

It's difficult for these countries, targeted by the West with sanctions and regime change, to walk a line and not allow protests to get out of hand when there's an element of foreign interference that seeks to see legitimate concerns spiral into outright violence.

'ideologically motivated hatred', I don't disagree.
'Where did that hatred come from?'
I don't know the cause of his grievances
Does they hate Jews for 'no reason' or for 'some reason'?
If it's 'some reason', then what's the reason/s?

Hi AC,

I often have a chuckle of how polarised our perspectives are, yet it is inconceivable that I would hold you accountable for what I perceive as the crimes of a nation or religion, nor you of me. I think it a very empowering thing and leads to a very optimistic view of the world where people who think differently are not your enemies.

The tragedy of Bondi was that the gunmen held Jewish people accountable for what they perceived as the crimes of Israel, to the extent that they felt themselves justified in randomly shooting people at a Hanukkah celebration.

The Richardson review will not examine that motivation. A Royal Commission would.

Hi Fester,
People may not like or agree with things I say.
Even I don't like the way I carry on myself at times
- but I always try to base my opinions on reason, on their own merits and provide links to back up my arguments.
Mostly I try to be factual, sometimes there's a little working theory.
The world's a complicated and confusing place.

I truly believe that diplomacy, dialogue and compromise is better than conflict, so yes it's good to be able to share ones views and disagree without things becoming toxic.

I like to point out the hypocrisy and stupidity of things
As an Aussie, it's a part of my DNA to point out when others are full of shite or their ideas are stupid.

"The tragedy of Bondi was that the gunmen held Jewish people accountable for what they perceived as the crimes of Israel, to the extent that they felt themselves justified in randomly shooting people at a Hanukkah celebration."

I said something similar.

The people responsible for this Bondi tragedy are the 2 people who decided that killing other people was necessary.
But beyond that I contend that Gaza caused Bondi, blowback.

If we are going to start pointing the finger at everything, might as well first face this likely fact.

[Cont.]
I can understand the victims families wanting a RC.
- To know that the lives of their loved ones held enough value to warrant it, anything less for a terrorist attack might make them feel that the government didn't care about the lives of their loved ones enough.
But I'm not certain that a full fledged investigation into Anti-Semitism is what Zionists really want.

They want to know the cause of conflict?
They want to know the reasons for criticism and animosity towards Jews
- And open that entire can of worms for public consumption in the town square.
I think not.

Why do some people criticise, dislike, resent or have animosity for Jews, Judaism or Israel?

Are they going to give the 'haters' a platform?

Are they going to allow the Neo NAZI's to put in their submissions
Will the Muslims get to weigh in on why they've peeved with Jews
Will average non-religious people get to have their say or are we already completely prevented from making our arguments because our ability to speak freely has already been criminalised?

"The Richardson review will not examine that motivation. A Royal Commission would."
I'm not scared of the truth, I welcome it.

What is the cause of conflict?

Is this about Jews as a minority fearing non-Jews and manipulating everything they can to 'feel' safe regardless of anyone else?
Or do I have a right to say things which make them uneasy but are true nonetheless?
The new definition (which is actually a working definition and can be updated by non Australians to become Australian law at anytime.

And there are genuine issues at play, national security and loyalty to our nation, an ability for citizens to stand up for what's important to them and speak freely about it without fear of retribution, defending the innocent victims of unjust wars, criticising nations that commit atrocities and not giving my silent consent, opposing a Zionist- occupied government if my own becomes compromised as I would against any undue foreign influence, standing up for international law.

We have freedom of religion, but religions sometimes preach and teach hate.

We might like our Christmas Carols in the park...
If Jews religious celebrations commemorate some ancient biblical conquest, should it be allowed.
And if so, by that measure why can't Palestinians celebrate October 7
Or if Muslims celebrate some special day of lopping off heads of Jews, shouldn't all this stuff be examined..

Religions condone and celebrate many atrocities.

These Chabad Jews support settlement building against international law and sending money to IDF who commit war crimes.

Do Palestinian protesters get to raise money for Hamas, just so there's a fair fight, not open slaughter of innocents.

You know, you kill my wife and kids, I'm out for revenge on those who made it happen.
Are non-combatant Jews screaming to wipe the Palestinians out like Amalek not indirectly responsible for the murder of someone elses wife and kids.

Somehow my anti-Semitism is responsible for Bondi, yet I'm not a member of ISIS and I was here at home haven't been to Bondi since I was a kid.
All I do is criticise a nation that genuinely deserves the criticism it's earned.
I'm an innocent non-combatant, yet somehow I'm getting the blame.
Why can't they play by their own rules?

When religious celebrations are divisive and cause conflict, should they be allowed under freedom of religion?
Was Bondi Hannukuh celebration an IDF or Settler fundraiser?