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Trump for Dummies : Comments

By Graham Young, published 15/12/2025

Australia’s real security risk isn’t China, but a growing distrust of its principal ally. Misreporting Trump distorts reality, weakens alliance confidence, and leaves Australia dangerously exposed if crisis comes.

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"Mueller documented numerous contacts between Trump campaign figures and Russian actors and extensive Russian interference. What he did not establish was prosecutable conspiracy."

That's certifiably false. He didn't find ANY conspiracy, prosecutable or otherwise. He found zero evidence that Trump or his campaign worked with the Russians on election interference. Yes, there were contacts just as there were contacts between the Clinton campaign ad Russia. Trump's team were the alternate government and it was natural that he'd talk to foreign governments. He spoke with the Australian government as well but we didn't collude to help him win. Your claims are the epitome of thinking its true because you want it to be true.

I said "You say there is evidence. Show it."

Can't help but notice you ran a mile from that.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 16 December 2025 1:26:35 PM
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That statement of mine was certifiably accurate, mhaze.

//That's certifiably false. He didn't find ANY conspiracy, prosecutable or otherwise.//

Mueller said the investigation "did not establish" conspiracy. That is a legal conclusion about proof, not a declaration that no coordination or cooperation occurred.

//He found zero evidence that Trump or his campaign worked with the Russians on election interference.//

False.

The report documents meetings, communications, offers of assistance, and expectations of benefit. What it did not find was sufficient evidence to charge criminal conspiracy. Evidence existing and evidence meeting a prosecutorial threshold are not the same thing.

//Yes, there were contacts just as there were contacts between the Clinton campaign and Russia.//

False equivalence. Mueller did not document the Clinton campaign welcoming offers of stolen material, nor obstructing an investigation afterward.

//Trump's team were the alternate government…//

No. The campaign was not the government. Many contacts occurred before the election and concerned election-related assistance, not diplomacy.

//Your claims are the epitome of thinking its true because you want it to be true.//

Projection.

My claims track the report's contents. Yours redefine "evidence" to mean "criminal conviction."

//I said "You say there is evidence. Show it."//

The evidence is documented in the Mueller Report itself. You dismiss it only because it doesn't end in indictments.

//Can't help but notice you ran a mile from that.//

No. You keep moving the goalposts. Your evasion does not become mine.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 16 December 2025 3:37:16 PM
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