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By Rafe Champion, published 21/8/2025The geological record shows higher CO₂ and hotter climates - but no tipping points, and life flourished.
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Yeah, yeah. The point is, the people in charge will not be moved. Even the Liberal Party "needs" 12 months to consider whether or not to reject Net Zero for the crock it is, and Australia continues to go backwards, as it has been since 2007.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 August 2025 8:41:14 AM
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Now various governments are talking about building high voltage power lines all over the country to distribute non existing power.
David Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 21 August 2025 10:08:01 AM
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What a Gish Gallop of half-truths and falsehoods from we have from this Rafe character.
On climate, he misrepresents both science and history. No credible scientist is warning of a “runaway Venus” scenario; tipping points mean thresholds like ice sheet collapse or permafrost thaw that lock in change and accelerate warming. His appeal to the geological record ignores that past rises in CO2 happened over thousands of years, giving ecosystems time to adapt. Today’s spike is roughly 100 times faster, which is precisely why it’s dangerous. The Roman Warm Period he celebrates was a modest, regional anomaly - not global, and certainly not two degrees hotter worldwide. Reconstructions show today’s warming already exceeds it. And far from life always “flourishing” in warmth, abrupt shifts in Earth’s past triggered mass extinctions. On energy, the blackout example is misused. The 2019 Victorian blackouts were caused by old coal plants failing under heat stress, not by renewables. AEMO has repeatedly warned that clinging to aging coal increases risk because these units are prone to sudden, unpredictable breakdowns. The market operator’s own plan shows that renewables combined with storage, transmission upgrades, and demand management can deliver a reliable grid. Storage - batteries and pumped hydro - is already doing the heavy lifting at night and in calm conditions. On costs, the claim that coal once gave us “the cheapest power in the world” is misleading. Old plants seemed cheap only because they were long paid off. New coal is now more expensive than wind or solar with storage, as CSIRO’s GenCost report shows. And while Champion blames renewables for manufacturing decline, the real drivers have been globalisation, automation, and commodity pressures. Smelters have always needed subsidies, regardless of the energy mix. Climate tipping points are real and dangerous, even if they’re not “runaway Venus.” Renewables with storage are the cheapest and most reliable option. Coal is not coming back - it’s costly, polluting, and already failing the grid Champion claims it protects. When ideology trumps science, this is the result. Posted by John Daysh, Thursday, 21 August 2025 4:15:53 PM
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Now various governments are talking about building high voltage power lines all over the country to distribute non existing power.
David Posted by VK3AUU Answer- Yes. There is apparently a new "High Volage DC Power Transmission Technology". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current#Comparison_with_AC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current The real problem we have is not an energy problem but an energy storage problem. Governments seemingly are investing in distribution technology as a sop to large contractors such as Siemens with large lobbying capabilities, that governments can hide behind, to defend themselves from the electorate. Basically because governments want to look like they are doing something and they have no idea what to do. There are a number of different technologies such as tidal, hydro, geothermal, wood chips, etc, based on the particular attributes of the locality that regional governments can exploit to service the electricity needs of the community. Obviously local use and supply is usually more optimal. Self sufficiency gives agency to local communities, produces jobs, etc. Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 21 August 2025 5:58:45 PM
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If we installed a bunch of Thorium powered SMRs in appropriate places we could save a lot of money and have 100 percent reliable cheap supply.
David Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 21 August 2025 6:47:21 PM
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