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Who was Australia’s best prime minister? : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 15/5/2025

Historians picked Curtin. The public picked Howard. But who really made Australia better?

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mhaze

<< But as new and better data emerged, its clear that the CIA played no part in the removal of Gough. But some prefer the myth to the truth. >>

The evidence I've read is convincing ...

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/11/15/new-investigation-exposes-cia-role-in-1975-coup-against-australian-government-which-wanted-to-remove-u-s-spy-base

https://johnmenadue.com/post/2023/11/shame-fraser-shame-the-overthrow-of-edward-gough-whitlam

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/06/01/john-pilger-the-forgotten-coup-against-the-most-loyal-ally

But perhaps you know better ...
Posted by Bronwyn, Friday, 16 May 2025 9:28:01 PM
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Indy,

Another one of you totally inane comments, off topic and nothing to do with Prime Ministers. ttbn accuse me of writing posts using AI, I suspect you are using CI to write your posts, like the above, that's Chimpanzee Intelligence, if you don't already know.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 17 May 2025 8:42:31 AM
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totally inane comments
Paul1405,
Really ? You sure it's not a case of you panicking as to how close those "inane" comments are to what's really happening ?
As I always like to say to posters like you, 'Those with no retort resort to ridicule'.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 17 May 2025 11:17:50 AM
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Indy,

People with intelligence can disseminate and understand the pros and cons that matter, and not simply be bought off with a handful of tidbits, or in your case with CI, a handful of peanuts! Anyway what's that got to do with Prime Ministers?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 17 May 2025 1:05:49 PM
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what's that got to do with Prime Ministers?
Paul1405,
Everything ! The social upheaval that's been building up for over five decades in Australia was given the green light by the Whitlam gang.
On the other hand, the economic near ruin by the three Labor governments preceding Howard was prevented by Howard's much maligned GST & it is still saving our bacon. The willy nilly immigration by Fraser & now Albanese will also need sorting out by a conservative administration.
Try as hard as you can to deny it but there's simply no doubt that enlarging the Public Service & too high a number of immigrants was nothing more than a vote purchasing exercise. What sections of the Public Service have improved lately ? I'll leave that answer to you to explain.
Which Department was that again that has 2000 staff & they couldn't answer 450 enquiries from the public ? A fair way from improved service wouldn't you agree ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 17 May 2025 5:50:02 PM
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Indy,

You simply view everything from your self serving conservative perch, with blinkers firmly in place, just like another Old Fart here. Claiming the despised Gough created social upheaval, which is untrue. When Whitlam came to power in 1972, Australia was very much divided over the Vietnam War, and forced conscription of young Australian men sent to fight and die in a disgusting war, Whitlam worked to unite the nation. Years of conservative rule had degenerated into stagnation of society, the world was changing, and Australia through Whitlam began the process of change for the better.

As for your hatred of the public service, you once admitted you had worked as a low grade PS, but due to incompetence your were terminated. That experience of failure has engrained an irrational hatred of the PS and its people ever since.

You keep your past a secret, not wanting others to know the real Indy. Answer one question, at what age did you become an Australian citizen?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 18 May 2025 5:59:47 AM
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