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Labor’s litany of lies : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 28/4/2025

With time running out in the countdown to the May 3 Federal election, Australia's future may well depend on how many voters believe Labor's repetitive litany of lies.

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Not disagreeing with what you say, John, but I think the election is lost. Even without the Trump Derangement, Dutton needed a top team and a brilliant campaign, but has had neither. One unforced error after another.

Albanese stands for UN open borders and renewables net zero, Dutton stands for slightly less open borders and nuclear net zero. Is that meant to be the high water mark of contemporary conservative philosophy?
Posted by Steve S, Monday, 28 April 2025 8:55:18 AM
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Just wait until the actual votes are counted. Results are usually different from the pontificating of pollsters, the media and "experts".
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 28 April 2025 9:02:38 AM
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As Nick Cater says: “Welcome to Australia's first fully-fledged post-truth election campaign, where hypocrisy and deception are assets, not liabilities”.

There are lies everywhere: from candidates, bankrollers, pollsters. All that can be hoped for is that enough of the approximately 18 million voters are on to the bastards.

One of the lies by the habitual liar Albanese has been that Tony Abbott slashed $80 billion off health and education in 2014 (a decade ago !!), when in fact, health GREW by 2.7% and education GREW by 5%.

“Labor's platform is little more than a list of slogans and electoral bribes (and lies)”, yet Dutton has been incapable of doing anything with it! The only hope for Australia in the most dangerous position we have been in since WW11 with these two mutton heads trying to fool us into thinking that they are up to the job, lies with those 18 or so million voters using common sense.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 28 April 2025 11:38:37 AM
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Among all lies, bribery and BS from the uniparty’s childishly inept electioneering, there has been no indication that they will take the following advice from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute”

“The next government needs to confirm that the key focus for the ADF is deterrence and war fighting to ensure the defence of Australia and to support our key allies and partners in Indo-Pacific stability. That includes deterring while preparing for the possibility of protracted high-intensity major-power war within our region that would likely see Australia come under direct threat of attack and include war fighting in domains such as space and cyberspace”.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 28 April 2025 12:05:52 PM
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And now we know that Labor knew about Russia's request for an airbase in Indonesia months ago and that Defence Minister Richard Marles has apparently approved two new Navy tug boats to be built in China! Honestly you couldn't make this stuff up in your wildest dreams but it's reality under Labor.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/albanese-govt-was-aware-of-russian-request-for-access-to-indonesian-air-base-in-march-ahead-of-federal-election-campaign/news-story/eb8d3ce5ee66f6052e88ca2a6b877208
Posted by Mikko2, Monday, 28 April 2025 12:08:06 PM
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Australia doesn't have a sovereign weapons capability to produce long range guided weapons, and will not have for another decade. We are dependent on foreign suppliers; hopefully not from the foreigners we have just bought a tug boat for the RAN from - Communist China!

You are kidding yourselves if you think we won't still be living in a lunatic asylum no matter who gets to be our government. The great white hope Dutton can't even guarantee a defence spend of 3% of GDP for another ten years. Everything is a decade down the track with these idiots. They didn't even have a vessel to shadow the Communist navy lapping our country.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 28 April 2025 12:31:38 PM
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You’re overreaching here, John Mikkelsen.

You accuse Labor of lying, but a lot of the examples you give are more complicated than you present - and some points are a bit misleading.

On Medicare, yes, Labor plays it up - but Coalition governments have a long track record of freezing rebates and quietly undermining funding. Concerns about future cuts aren’t made up, even if Labor leans into them politically.

Your nuclear energy argument relies heavily on one report (Frontier Economics), but most modelling - including CSIRO’s GenCost report - still finds nuclear more expensive and much slower to deploy here. It’s not as black and white as you suggest.

Your personal experience with healthcare costs is real - but blaming Labor alone ignores the fact that out-of-pocket costs have been rising for well over a decade under both sides.

As for the debt, it’s simply wrong to imply Labor created the $1 trillion figure - the Coalition government was already responsible for it before the last election. Labor added to debt during the GFC, yes, but the explosion toward $1 trillion overwhelmingly happened under the Coalition.

Power bills have gone up, no question. But pretending it’s purely Labor’s fault when there’s been a global energy crisis is a bit convenient.

The Voice referendum didn’t cost $450 million either - it was around $364 million - and calling Labor’s management a path to "collapse into the abyss" feels more like emotional language than serious analysis.

There’s plenty to criticise Labor for - and fair criticisms matter more than exaggerated ones.

And yes, the Russia base situation and building tugboats in China are serious concerns. They deserve real scrutiny. But none of that changes the fact that much of your original article stretched things. Two bad decisions don’t turn every criticism into a fair one.

If we want better government, we need better arguments - not just louder ones.
Posted by John Daysh, Monday, 28 April 2025 12:33:56 PM
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I saw this summary online. Seems on the ball. Select your favourites—
Do voters have amnesia? Albanese Government report card --
Preference Greens...fail. Defence...fail. Tax unrealised capital gains...fail. Maintain Indonesia relationship...fail. Instant asset write off..fail. Home batteries for the rich...fail. Port of Darwin...fail. Vehicle emissions standards...fail.
Domestic batteries....fail. RepuTex modelling...fail. Gas reserves...fail. Tax reform...fail. Access to National Parks...fail. Debt reduction...fail. US Tariff exemptions...fail. Emergency messaging system...fail. Northwest gas field extension...fail. Bulk citizenship ceremonies...fail. Green Hydrogen..fail. Funding for hate preachers..fail, Stand up to China...fail. Voice Referendum…fail, Electricity prices...fail, Immigration...fail, Housing...fail. Productivety...fail, Border security...fail, Inflation and government spending...fail.
Student debts.... fail, Support for Jewish community…fail, Puberty blockers.fail, Green investments….fail, Funding UNWRA…fail, Interest rates.fail, Support for Israel.. fail, Foreign affairs. fail, UN representation. fail, Quantum computer.. fail, Hate speech suppression fail, Wage restraint..fail, Public sector 36,000 staff growth fail, Minerals exploration approvals..fail, Airline competition...fail, Super rules...fail, Industry bargaining..fail, Cashless debit card...fail, Afghanistan military medals...fail, Paid parental leave..fail, Deport criminals...fail, US and UK Ambassadors…..fail, Temporary protection visas...fail, EV subsidies..fail, PM travel..fail, Budget restraint...fail, Salmon farming...fail, Alliance with US...fail, Support for Alice Springs...fail. Support for Australia Day...fail.
NDIS overhaul...fail. Stage 3 tax cuts in full...fail. Live Sheep exports...fail. Aged care nursing....fail.
Posted by Lytton, Monday, 28 April 2025 1:19:16 PM
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Hi Lytton, better tell John Daysh, there's more fails than you can poke a stick at and just on the nuclear plan alone which will cost nowhere near Labor's claimed $600 billion, it's also a fact that nuclear plants will last 80 years as opposed to so-called "renewables" which will all need replacing after about 20 years as we have seen recently with the closure of Victoria's first "wind farm" after just 20 years. Now we see even the UK's Starmer embracing nuclear energy let alone the other G20 countries who realise it's cheaper, cleaner and more reliable than an unworkable system based on wind turbines, Chinese solar panels and batteries that can only store energy that would last a few hours when called on when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow.
Posted by Mikko2, Monday, 28 April 2025 1:50:57 PM
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Mikko2,

Nuclear may have a role to play in some countries’ energy mixes - and you’re right it has advantages in lifespan and reliability. But the debate isn’t as simple as “nuclear good, renewables bad.”

The idea that nuclear plants run for 80 years is theoretical at this point - no plant has actually operated that long yet. It assumes costly mid-life refurbishments and ongoing regulatory approvals, not just set-and-forget reliability. Meanwhile, renewables are lasting longer, and the economics have shifted dramatically even in the past five years.

It also hasn’t gone unnoticed that you didn’t fully engage with the dubious "fail" list that was posted. Probably wise - lumping dozens of complex issues into a pile labelled "fail" cheapens real criticisms and makes serious points easier to dismiss.

Pointing out Labor’s flaws is important - and there’s plenty worth discussing - but when criticisms get stretched or stripped of context, it doesn’t strengthen the case, it weakens it. Again, if we want better government, we need sharper arguments, not just louder ones.
Posted by John Daysh, Monday, 28 April 2025 2:17:05 PM
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Australia's national debt when Labor took office after the covid years was $895 k, not the $1.2 trillion foreshadowed in Labor's latest budget - and we all remember that Labor wanted the government support largesse we saw during the covid pandemic panic to be continued when the coalition ended it. From left- wing The Guardian:

Gross debt ($, billions)
Despite the upward debt trajectory since Labor took office in May 2022, Chalmers highlighted how the pre-election fiscal outlook in 2022 predicted gross debt would have blown out to $1.1tn by mid-2025 – or $177bn more than the budget will forecast on Tuesday.25 Mar 2025
Chalmers upbeat on eve of budget despite grim debt outlook ...
Posted by Mikko2, Monday, 28 April 2025 3:41:40 PM
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Mikko2, you’re actually helping prove my point.

Yes, Labor inherited around $895 billion in debt. But as you’ve shown, the forward projections - even before Labor’s first full budget - already had debt rising toward $1.1 trillion by mid-2025. That was baked in from pandemic-era Coalition budgets.

Labor has added to it, sure - but pretending they created the $1 trillion debt, or that the trajectory wasn’t already locked in, isn’t accurate. Even the numbers you posted show that.
Posted by John Daysh, Monday, 28 April 2025 4:15:23 PM
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News report tonight—

And finally, confirmation of what we already knew to be true: the Albanese government has become the biggest-spending government in history, with plans if re-elected to take the nation to even greater heights of fiscal profligacy.
Posted by Lytton, Monday, 28 April 2025 5:58:07 PM
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The Liberal Party is showing itself to be a party that supports racism and hate speak and will support racists trash to gain office. The parties endorsed candidate for the seat of Fowler in Sydney Vivek Singh has described Aboriginal people in the most derogatory language on social media. Dutton refuses to dis-endorse this racists sleazebag. Unfortunately scratch the veneer and it exposes people like Singh and Dutton for what they really think of our First Australians.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 28 April 2025 8:29:26 PM
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what they really think of our First Australians.
Paul1405,
So, what do they think ? We know what you think of of them. A convenient platform for your hypocritical character to keep any possible harmony from becoming a reality !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 28 April 2025 11:34:38 PM
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Indy,

Referring to indigenous people as "arseholes" in Singh's case, or "concrete jungle bunnies" as in your case, hardly promotes harmony among people. Dutton's attack on 'Welcome To Country' is just another example of the way this bloke tries to promote division in society for political gain. The disgusting booing by the far right mob on ANZAC Day in Melbourne just shows how extremism is alive and kicking in Australia. BTW, the RSL (not known for their radicalism) have come out in support of a 'Welcome To Country' at their ANZAC Day ceremonies.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 6:17:32 AM
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Never forget "every accusation is a confession" for the right wing nutjobs. Biggest liars on the planet.
Posted by mikk, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 6:52:52 AM
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Don't forget we are all human beings, each with a story going back 300,000 years. All Australians should be treated with equal respect, regardless of our heritage, so why have one and only one heritage and story forced upon us?

The Nazi salute claimed its origins as a greeting between people. I don't think that forcing greetings, welcomes or acknowledgements a good idea.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 7:09:42 AM
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or "concrete jungle bunnies" as in your case,
Paul1405,
This is a perfect example of your Woke hypocrisy crossed with your conniving character.
A straight out deliberate lie for no other purpose than opportunistic division creating.
I never once stated that CJB are Aboriginals. The reference was clearly for city dwellers among the high rise warren where the most conditioned & indoctrinated half-baked, half educated perpetual students create their taxpayer funded fantasies. I really have to dig deep in my memory bank to think of worst characters than you. You're not even smart enough to feel an ounce of shame !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 7:22:11 AM
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Regarding the wasted cost of Labor's divisive Voice referendum, which they didn't mention in their election platform back in 2022 -
"Cost
The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) estimated the cost of the referendum would be about $450 million..."
How many houses could that have built in outback communities, Albo? What services will you cut to try to offset budget deficits as far as the eye can see and that mounting $1.2 trillion national debt?
We thought Whitlam was bad but Albo is the weakest, wokest and worst PM Australia has ever seen and our credit rating is now also at risk
https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/election-spending-puts-aaa-rating-at-risk-20250428-p5luql
Posted by Mikko2, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 8:45:05 AM
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Dear John (the author),

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You wrote :

« … the Opposition's nuclear energy plan, where costings are blown out of the ballpark to a highly inflated $600 billion »
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There are currently about 440 nuclear reactors in 32 countries generating 10% of the world's electricity. The first nuclear reactor was built 87 years ago in 1938. Nuclear engineers have long mastered their profession to a high degree of perfection and security.

Cost overruns on building new nuclear power plants are the rule rather than the exception, sometimes doubling or even tripling the original projections.

For that reason, I am inclined to consider that the $600 billion figure should be retained for argument's sake as an acceptable starting point.

I am fully in favour of Australia going nuclear, and the sooner the better.

We have already earmarked AUD 365.42 billion (USD 235.00 billion) for US nuclear submarines that probably won’t be forthcoming until sometime towards the end of the millennium (“America First” oblige !) In the meantime, that money could best be employed building badly needed nuclear reactors.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 9:24:52 AM
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Nuclear bomb number 8 is going into the Federal electorate of Dickson, the grand opening in 3035, with a construction cost of $100 trillion, and only 500 years late, will be carried out by Little Little Dud, the great, great and ten more greats grandson of the once local member Grandpa Dud who unfortunately passed away in 2035 when he consumed a gob full of yellow cake, believing it to be Nanna's apple crumble.

Don't worry about Saturday, she'll be right, no matter what the outcome is.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 10:06:12 AM
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The one time Albo has spoken the truth during the election campaign:

'If you ask me, "Do you rule out governing in coalition with the Greens?" The answer is no,' Mr Albanese told reporters.

Oops, I guess that's why he has given an anti-semitic Green candidate his second preference.
Posted by Mikko2, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 2:29:12 PM
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Labor's lying started during the Whitlam era when the party for working people was twisted by unions into an academic parasitic yuppie club funded by the blue collar workers & their employers !
Labor is now so far removed from its original doctrine that only a Coalition Government can offer those values Labor originally stood for !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 7:02:03 PM
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