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Low quality homes and the housing crisis : Comments

By Ross Elliott, published 30/1/2025

If the objective is to get more people into homes they can afford, and quickly, we need to lower our standards and risk taking new approaches.

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The problem with the housing crisis is the solutions to the problem it is to those most effected, is in the hands of those least effected.

Until that changes the housing crisis will morph into a dogs breakfast of profit to the wealthy end of society, and the dogs breakfast will be supplied from the losing end of society.

Best of luck with that situation ever changing.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 30 January 2025 7:23:19 AM
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A new house in 2025 needs internet connection, a carport or garage with an EV charger, solar panels perhaps a battery, maybe a rainwater tank and some space for raised vegie beds. Lawn not necessary. All that could add $20k to the construction cost.

Near me the cost of 'underbuilding' is apparent. A family moved into an off-the-plan 2br unit. No pets but they had 2 cars, a trailer and a caravan parked on the street at an awkward spot. The caravan had to be moved last week after a complaint. Housing can be too small.
Posted by Taswegian, Thursday, 30 January 2025 8:10:14 AM
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Homeless people living in the car or local parks is a sure sign that we need more caravan parks.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 30 January 2025 8:22:53 AM
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As long as people keep dodging the real issues, mass immigration, government red tape and green tape making building more expensive, nothing will change.

Their are more heads in the sand in Australia than anywhere else in the world.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 January 2025 9:01:50 AM
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Their are more heads in the sand in Australia than anywhere else in the world.
ttbn,
Could it be said that educated white Australians are most insipid of the Caucasian race ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 30 January 2025 9:26:57 AM
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State and federal governments could not be clearer in their intentions. Through massive migration (70% higher than even Rudd dared) they are quickly forcing ordinary Australians out of decent houses with backyards, and into crap housing developments 30-50 km from cities, or vertical apartment living of dubious build and dodgy quality.

Is the author seriously suggesting that they be forced even more quickly into crap suburbs and accommodations that are even more crap?
Posted by Steve S, Thursday, 30 January 2025 4:43:51 PM
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Maybe the lucky ones in the end will be those rejected of Politicians called the homeless: Forced into a nomadic existence by overzealous councils and unreasonable ordinances, aimed at moving the homeless ever onward.
A Queensland speciality is cutting out shade trees in car parks as a discouragement to lingering vagrants, (the homeless).

The authorities have a need to get on side to actually assist rather than discourage.
It’s too late to solve the immediacy of the housing crisis, with plonking onwards ideas like Ross Elliotts.

Even simpler designed raw amenities blocks with a projecting roof for shelter, the size of a double carport, that can be individualised to accommodate a vehicle , would incentivise homeless with vehicles to congregate in industrial areas and remove campers from the streets, and should be very inexpensive to build, with immediate results.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 30 January 2025 6:50:37 PM
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What a terrible state the country is in when we have to consider such
solutions for the homeless.
For those with family I suggest that government take over from councils
a park that has an amenities block and reasonably close to a shopping
centre, divide up the park into areas big enough for the type of tent
people have for holiday camping grounds say 3 or 4 metres square.
Those tents can have a dividing internal screen for beds and the rest
for a camp stove table and chairs.
I am reminded of my family holidays in our tent at Lake Conjola.
We have to assume that people are going to be in this form of housing
for some years.
One part of the park should allow to park a car alongside their tent.
Remember many will have a job where they need a car.
The amenities block would need upgrading by adding shower facilities.
As I experienced in camp grounds very quickly a community develops
which would keep everything very civilised.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:10:42 AM
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Further ideas;
For those with the means to buy a caravan, parks further away from
shopping centres could be converted into caravan parks.
Adding shower facilities would be required to existing amenities.

This is, coming ready or not, what Australia is becoming.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:18:47 AM
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The Ross Eliot’s of this world should be ignored: They exhibit nil to very little idea of the immediacy of the housing crisis, and actually stand in the way of, as supposed experts, in the path of real and meaningful resolutions to the crisis, while pretending what they obviously have no understand of, matters; it doesn’t. And it doesn’t because the lack of empathy is driving solutions in the wrong direction.

Here is a little dose of reality: Hospital Emergency centres have become de facto camping grounds for many of the homeless, where they can book in for emergency treatment, which now has a traditional waiting time ranging from seven to sixteen hours for access to emergency service by a resident doctor, and be afforded air conditioned comfort against summer temperatures over forty degrees, a place to sleep with reasonable security, and a home base.

The Ross Elliot’s need to expose themselves to the new reality!
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:42:00 AM
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