Fairy tales from the deluded.

The anticipated Israeli attack was a failure.
The Israelis launched 4 waves with up to 100 aircraft in total, but the Iranians now have increased radar capabilities and air defence and the Iranians detected the F-35s on take-off and were able to lock onto them in flight.
The Israelis failed to take out Iranian air defence, and the remaining waves of the planned strike were called back.

So now Iran has shown it can target Israel anytime it wants, and Israel has shown that it cannot effectively target Iran at all.
They're saying that after November 7 they will respond to Israels attempted attack, and they plans to punish Israel hard.

Everything Israel has done since October 7 2023 has blown up in it's face.
All they can do is attempt to 'show strength' by killing civilians with bombs or starvation.
If you take away those deliberate civilian casualties, Israel actually looks pathetic and like a drowning man.

Attempt to destroy Hamas - FAILURE
Attempt to recover hostages - FAILURE
Attempt to destroy Hezbollah - FAILURE
Attempt to return Northern communities - FAILURE
Attempt to threaten, bully and stand over Iran - FAILURE

What has Israel won?
They are an economic basket case, and a million Israelis have left.
They've shown themselves to be militarily weaker than they claimed to be, many Israelis are being killed and wounded every day.
And meanwhile Israelis are under greater attack by their neighbours than they have been in decades and they are a pariah on the world stage - hated for genocide and crimes against humanity, and the U.S. has attached itself to this as facilitator.

You really do live in a fantasy world, don't you Armchair?

"The Israelis launched 4 waves with up to 100 aircraft in total,"

Are they the same aircraft you assured us earlier had been taken out by the Iran attack?

"The attack destroyed ALL of Iran's long-range surface-to-air missile batteries,...All long-range detection radars were also destroyed. Iran is left with only short-range batteries of local Iranian models."

Iran had more than 2,000 long-range ballistic missiles by most estimates but the production of new ones is crippled. Iran will now not be able to grow its supply for months or years.

"Iran’s oil economy is now defenseless. Third, Israel struck key nodes in Iran’s ballistic-missile production and hit a military target in Parchin, where Iran has worked on nuclear weaponization," the Wall Street Journal noted."

Along the say the IDF took out radar sites in Syria and Iraq...all without losing a single plane.

You say the plans were forced to turn back but even the Tehran news carried stories of blasts in Tehran and surrounding areas. More fantasy?

I wonder if Sinwar and Nazrallah think Israel is failing?

"The attack destroyed ALL of Iran's long-range surface-to-air missile batteries,...All long-range detection radars were also destroyed. Iran is left with only short-range batteries of local Iranian models."

- So you're saying Israel just took out ALL the Russian manned S-400 systems, pop on your pj's, you're entering dreamland.

Geez you talk some garbage mhaze, and you get around trying to find steaming piles of crap to stand in.

"Iran had more than 2,000 long-range ballistic missiles by most estimates but the production of new ones is crippled. Iran will now not be able to grow its supply for months or years."
- You're such a ninny.
You need B61 bunker busting nuclear bomb to get anywhere close to damaging Irans underground facilities.
You're just repeating lies which can be proven false.
Why did Trump say 'nuke Irans nuclear sites'?
- Because he knows that's the only way you can get at them.

Iran has thousands and thousands of missiles built to prevent an attack by the U.S. after the U.S. invaded Iraq.

Watch 5 mins of this and get up to speed.
http://www.youtube.com/live/txkNk76E3SI?t=121

Israel no longer has stealth, it can't attack Iran without it's F-35's being blown out of the sky.
Before you fools talk tough over Iran lets see you defeat Hamas and the Houthis, you can't even do that
- don't talk to me about fantasyland, you dwell in that place.

THE BIG GAMBLE - IRAN THREATENS TO STRIKE - CAN THE US EMPIRE ACT RATIONALLY?
http://www.youtube.com/live/06Bjr2w2NSM

Watch that as well, maybe you'll stop making a fool of yourself repeating stupid lies, but I doubt it.

AC finds a couple of people who talk a lot and provide no evidence to tell me I'm wrong. Not even close to convincing.

Note that you ignored the jibe that the planes the IDF used were, according to you, destroyed in the Iranian attack. I guess you'll never walk that back but that doesn't stop me noticing.

Note that you also ignore the fact that there were confirmed attacks in Tehran which you say didn't happen.

"You need B61 bunker busting nuclear bomb to get anywhere close to damaging Irans underground facilities."

Why do you think these facilities were underground? Because you just want to believe it?

"Why did Trump say 'nuke Irans nuclear sites'?
- Because he knows that's the only way you can get at them."

But but.... the IDF specifically DIDN'T go after the nuclear sites. They did however take out the missile sites protecting the nuclear sites, leaving Tehran on notice that they can take out their nuke sites whenever they want.

BTW when did Trump say that?

" So you're saying Israel just took out ALL the Russian manned S-400 systems".

Yep. Note again - not a single IDF plane was lost.

They're experts, not people who are still part of the system paid to lie.

"Note that you ignored the jibe that the planes the IDF used were, according to you, destroyed in the Iranian attack. I guess you'll never walk that back but that doesn't stop me noticing."
- It turns out Israel had 2 hrs warning prior to the 1st October attack, not to mention the travel time of drones and missiles which gave Israel time to put the planes in the air.
- If there were any F-35's destroyed then they were old F-35 Block A that Israel deliberately wanted destroyed so U.S. would replace them with newer units, never let a crisis go to waste.

"Note that you also ignore the fact that there were confirmed attacks in Tehran which you say didn't happen."
- I never said there were no attacks, I think 3 or 4 Iranians were killed in one strike, I said the attack itself was a failure.

"But but.... the IDF specifically DIDN'T go after the nuclear sites."
- They never got the chance, they never even got close enough.
They called off the second and third waves like cowards then claimed victory anyway.

"They did however take out the missile sites protecting the nuclear sites, leaving Tehran on notice that they can take out their nuke sites whenever they want."

Your entering dreamland again, nothing serious.
- Iran is a huge country, and Israel is this tiny little speck.
Iran has told the Arab stats if they allow Israel to fly over their countries to attack them they will light up their oilfields and oil ports.
Israel's F-35s can't even launch air attacks on Iran without now being targeted long before they can even get in range of anything.

"BTW when did Trump say that?"
- A few weeks back apparently, I'm not sure this was the actual source below though, it may have been a different discussion.

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trump-says-israel-should-hit-irans-nuclear-facilities-6719212

"Yep. Note again - not a single IDF plane was lost."
- Lol, maybe they should send the Israeli Air Force into Ukraine then?

Your Israelis didn't get shot down because they were locked onto themselves long before they got into strike range of targets deep in Iran (not on the border) and they turned and ran away, not wanting to become the news themselves when their F-35 Adirs become fireballs and Iraqis are taking selfies next to the burning wreckage to post on X.

Remember. This author's opinions are just like anyone else's. He has no more influence over the people he is angry with than the rest of us have. He has a certain "take" on Israel; we all know what it is, it's not going to change, and there is no point in arguing with someone who is unlikely to even look at the arguments.

Now that's just deranged doublethink AC.

You simultaneously think that the Israeli's turned and ran because they were locked by radar " long before they got into strike range of targets deep in Iran" while also agreeing that they hit targets deep in Iran.

One or t'other dear boy. Both can't be true.

And the least said about your fantasies about Israeli jets being downed the better.

"Now that's just deranged doublethink AC"
- Yes I guess so, you got me.

Maybe I misunderstood something when I was watching those videos.
Apparently the F-35s were 'painted' by an 'air defense of unknown origin' 75 to 100 klms from the Iranian border which disrupted the Israeli attack and the 2nd and 3rd planned waves were called back.

Scott Ritter : Ukraine’s Done; Israel’s In Uproar.
http://www.youtube.com/live/QLHk3Sljyjw?t=528