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Fines, crimes and a big white kangaroo : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 25/9/2024

We know it's just adding to huge deficits which would be much more massive if it weren't for lucrative royalties and taxes.

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The irony is that the push to constantly monitor speed and search for barely visible speed limit signs can becomes a hazard in itself. The more fixated on the dashboard we are, the less we're paying attention to everything else. When the enforcement is so rigid that it forces drivers into a state of hyper-vigilance about their speed rather than the actual driving conditions, it defeats the purpose.

It seems as though the system values catching minor infractions more than it values creating conditions for drivers to focus on what's truly important: the road and their surroundings. Which is why enforcement feels more like a trap for revenue generation than a legitimate attempt to protect public safety. If safety is the goal, driving to the conditions should be the priority, not forcing drivers to divert their attention constantly to avoid trivial fines.

If you get the reply you're expecting, respond pointing this out. I can guarantee your next reply will be this:

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Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 8:42:41 AM
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Plundering motorists for revenue is crude and unsophisticated : Let us have some honesty from the roving tax man and his spyware regime.

A totally new and appropriately affordable infringement policy is way past due date, that matches modern super efficient spy technology which we face off with on a daily basis.
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 10:15:57 AM
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Yes Mr Mikkelsen, want to equate his piddling ignorant action to major youth crime, often by repeat offenders, domestic violence, arson, car thefts and road incidents involving drivers often high on drugs driving at high speeds, usually in stolen cars.

The inescapable fact is Mr Mikkelsen broke the law, now he believes the law should be designed to accommodate his ignorance and transgressions. His first mistake was a failure to know the speed limit in local streets and built-up areas in Queensland that being 50 km/h, why is he driving. This bloke then goes on to berate the Queensland Premier no less, for the law has not been designed to accommodate his personal ignorance, what an important person he must be. One basic rule in Queensland is as above, well Mr Mikkelsen if you don't know that basic rule, then you're a danger on the road, your licence should be revoked!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 2:18:41 PM
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BTW, Mr Mikkelsen is some kind of petrol head as well, "I've owned plenty of fast cars" Well most cars are "fast" they can do well in excess of 50km/h, but most people can drive them at the speed limit, seem you can't then there is this gem of ignorance from the ignorent himself.

"We recently made a short trip to collect our son and daughter in law and drop them at the nearest railway station where they paid a 50 cent Go Card fare to Brisbane, enroute to the International Airport to visit our ancestral home of Denmark and other European nations."

The fare to the Brisbane International Airport by train is $10.95 when travelling from all Brisbane City stations, and $11.45 if you're travelling from any other station. Not 50c as this bloke claims.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 2:40:02 PM
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Learn to read as well as count on your fingers, Paul I said they caught a train to Brisbane with a 50 cent Go Card fare "enroute to the International airport" Naturally the train wouldn't take them to the airport ... and yes 50 cents is all it cost from Cooroy to Brisbane..
Meanwhile, stabbings, burglaries, arson, drugs, domestic violence, online scammers ... nah, let's catch the unsuspecting motorists who aren't a danger to anyone. They're a much easier, lucrative target and if we hide behind a bush on a downhill slope, even easier! Kerching....

Anyone staring at their speedo rather than concentrating on road conditions and traffic is a danger to other motorists and I guess that includes you.
Posted by Mikko2, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 3:55:59 PM
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Mikko2,

Yes indeed the train fare from Cooroy (Sunshine Coast) to Brisbane (Roma Street) is 50c, change trains to airport line, one journey then the fare when tapping off is $11.45, you didn't say how they got to the airport, I assumed it was the one train journey. I see no relationship between serious crime and your misdemeanour. You admitted ignorance of the law, ignorance is no defence, otherwise we'd all be innocent.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 4:28:00 PM
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I have said many times if we're not to go over 100kmh then don't build cars that go faster !
And, as John Daysh says;
The more fixated on the dashboard we are, the less we're paying attention to everything else. When the enforcement is so rigid that it forces drivers into a state of hyper-vigilance about their speed rather than the actual driving conditions, it defeats the purpose.

The Law wants us to drive responsibly yet forces us to take unnecessary risks by these rigid & irresponsible rules !
Mentality of drivers is the other problem . Only yesterday I was sitting on 100km/h in a 100 zone yet some dill overtook me & then sat only 30 metres in front of me for the next 25 km.
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 9:34:25 PM
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Hi Indyvidual, good to see you, John Daysch and others in agreement with me, and at odds with the dill who thinks eyes glued to his speedo is somehow safe for other road users.
Regarding speed limits, not all suburban streets have 50km limits - only the ones with no posted speed signs. And as an example of the lack of logic by the authorities who decide these limits, we have a VERY busy road passing thru our beachside suburb which has a very popular car park on either side with a pedestrian crossing to a major beach access. The posted speed limit is 70km/hr, so pedestrians with kids and dogs have to play Russian Roulette with cars, trucks and buses to make it across to a narrow island refuge in the middle of the road.
So 70 there is somehow safer than the 58 km/hr I was doing in a long, wide suburban street.
Yeah, right...
Posted by Mikko2, Thursday, 26 September 2024 8:40:30 AM
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Mikko2,

The dill is the bloke who is ignorant of the road rules, obviously you are. Get yourself a handbook of the rules, and learn something. You didn't answer my question; Did your relatives change trains in Brisbane, and continue to the airport, paying a surcharge of $10.95? You claimed they only paid 50c. Maybe they walked to the airport and saved $10.95, after all its only a "leisurely stroll" from Brisbane city to the airport.

BTW; If you can't keep to the speed limit without your eyes glued to the speedometer, then maybe its time to give driving away altogether, and catch those 50c trains, buses and ferries. Never had a speeding ticket in my life, and never needed to have my eyes glued to the speedometer either.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 September 2024 9:11:21 AM
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Paul.*#! just stick to your pushbike mate. Do you still think all suburban streets are 50 km/hr?. Re transport from Brisbane Central to the international airport there are several different options but I didn't hold their hand. We know ALL Translink fares are 50 cents. Their train from Cooroy was running about 25 minutes late so I guess they took the fastest option to get to the airport but that's irrelevant.

From the Qld Government website: "Roads that carry traffic through suburbs and across towns have a speed limit of 60km/h or higher. The speed limit on these roads is clearly signed."
But if you come in from a side street you do not necessarily see a sign until you have travelled some distance, so an unsigned street can be a convenient revenue booster.
As I've already said, the very busy road thru our coastal suburb has a posted speed of 70km, through a pedestrian crossing and car park area to a popular beach access. There are NO zebra crossing lines or lights, so traffic does not have to stop or even slow down for pedestrians who just have to duck across when there's a break. That's safe because the law says so?
Stick with your obviously minority delusions.
Posted by Mikko2, Thursday, 26 September 2024 11:42:42 AM
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Mikko#

"Stick with your obviously minority delusions." You get 3 posters on a rather small forum who somewhat agree with you, and you think that's a majority of road users. If I was turning off a 60Km speed limit into as yet unknown speed limit zone, I would assume 50km/h and act accordingly until a sign post told me otherwise, very easy to avoid a $322 fine.

Given you petrol head, fast car fetish, I suspect, but possibly not, that you frequently exceed the speed limit, and since you got rightly pinged this one time, amortised over the many times you have exceeded the speed limit without apprehension, the cost could be as little as 50c a pop.

BTW; Have you written to the UN about this, telling them of the monumental injustice committed against you by an uncaring, money grabbing State Labor Government, the kind you hate. I expect the LNP will win next months election, and the very next day a bloke like you can rip down that road doing 100 clicks with total impunity. Warning, watch out for the little children who live in that street, we don't want to add another fatality to the growing list of road carnage caused by speeding drivers, do we not.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 September 2024 5:43:43 PM
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Paul 1405 - just found this article.
I think you are missing the point ALTOGETHER.
Obviously you have not been living in any places where CRIME is out of control. You are picking on one part of the article and arguing over some stupid piddling matter.
I feel that Mikko2 is pointing out where this Qld government's priorities lie – which is upsetting many more people who are getting their homes broken into and their property being STOLEN.
Imagine your car being driven erratically for hours on end (days sometimes) and then being TORCHED - This has happened to thousands of families who have no money to sort themselves out and yet nothing happens to these scoundrels.
We in Queensland have been crying out for help since April 2008 for the Government to do something about the rampant crime in Cairns and district - later it hit Townsville and now it is statewide. This government is unable or unwilling to do anything about the number of cars stolen EVERY DAY let alone the homes that are broken into, keys to cars and houses stolen etc.
The police have their hands tied in this regard for some ridiculous reason.
Until this crime hit the city of Brisvegas, the premier and her mob at the time never took one bit of notice. Just for interest for you, this is the latest report from the police on stolen cars in the Cairns Police district.
Vehicles Stolen this month: 74
Vehicles Stolen this year: 532
Vehicles stolen in 2023: 804
Vehicles stolen in 2022: 1299
For your information
Posted by Farnortherner, Thursday, 26 September 2024 7:41:54 PM
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Farnortherner,

There is no relationship between these serious crimes which are being committed, and everything else mentioned in the article including Mr M's speeding offence. He attempted to mitigate his transgression by pointing to these other more serious matters. His grievance was a $322, and he admits to being a repeat offender, btw he has the right to contest his guilt in court if he wants, that was the catalyst which prompted his "letter to the Premier" nonsense.

I note that both major political parties in the state intend to keep the 50 cent fares after the election. They are here to stay.

Question; What should be the allowable margin over the imposed speed limit before a fine is imposed? Mr M thinks 8km/h and possibly higher is acceptable, others might argue some other even higher figure is acceptable, What yours Farnortherner.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 September 2024 9:54:19 PM
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My thoughts have nothing to do with anything.
Stop showing your childishness.
Posted by Farnortherner, Friday, 27 September 2024 7:24:10 AM
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Your question has nothing to do with anything.

I'm more worried about those who do not even know the basic road rules rather than a competent and long experienced driver. I live in a country area and we are more competent drivers than those who have only ever mainly driven in cities or their own little suburb.
Don't even talk about those once in a lifetime caravan holidaymakers! They should be made to have tests before being let loose on public roads.

Mikko2 also writes for entertainment as well as facts and only a couple of fools keep attacking him, one in particular - have no idea why as they sound like they have nothing better to do.

At least Mikko2 does work that has meaning and I enjoy his articles. One doesn't always have to agree but some of the ridiculous back stabbing from the odd person only shows their character and does not detract from Mikko2's work (IMO).
Posted by Farnortherner, Friday, 27 September 2024 7:36:30 AM
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Thanks Farnortherner, but don't worry it's plain for anyone with half a brain that this particular bloke is off the charts with his irrational rants and self congratulatory back-pats. He reminds me of the nursery rhyme boy in the corner who "put in his thumb and pulled out a plumb and said, 'What a good boy am I".
The first comment in this thread from John Daysch is more in tune with what the majority of sensible motorists think- more focus should be on driving to the prevailing conditions than on the speedo. It is obviously unsafe to drive at 100 km/hr on wet slippery roads, in heavy rain or fog, or pot-holed country roads, but some do and its another reason for the high road toll. But they weren't "breaking the law" even though they were obviously driving dangerously at the time.
BTW for the record, over many years I've never been fined for any major infringement, as the article clearly states. And the same article has now been published in at least four sites and guess who the only one in disagreement in the comments is. (no prizes...)
Posted by Mikko2, Friday, 27 September 2024 9:12:52 AM
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Mikko2,

Insecurity has you wanting, everyone to agree with you, seems you need to be loved, okay fine, everyone agrees with you, no one agrees with me so be it, I have my opinion, and I'm not so insecure to crave the love of anonymous posters on forums. I'll stick with my opinion. You remind me of that insure school yard bully, who claims all are on his side, before he takes to that little nerdy kid, who everyone hates, according to the bully that is.

Farnortherner you make a good mate for Mikko2 with his name calling. How did you become an authority on other drivers; "we are more competent drivers than those who have only ever mainly driven in cities or their own little suburb." What do you base that claim on?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 27 September 2024 4:37:43 PM
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Paul1405,
Isn't it high time you reduced the size of that chip on your shoulder ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 28 September 2024 9:15:03 AM
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Indy,
I think it fell off the side of his head....
Posted by Mikko2, Saturday, 28 September 2024 9:45:34 AM
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