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Immigration: the xenophobia trap : Comments

By Guy Hallowes, published 27/5/2024

Can't we just be honest with ourselves and have a straightforward discussion about Australia's needs, given the shrinking and ageing population?

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Divergence,
You're confirming what I have stated for a long time here but no-one believes, it's a matter of mentality !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 11:04:20 PM
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Good overview, while Australia and the Anglosphere have been led up the garden path by the fossil fueled white Christian nationalists, population controllers and their fear of the 'great replacement'.

This has been helped along locally since the time of Howard by Tanton Network of former ZPG types including dec. John Tanton and Paul Ehrlich, linked to SPA and 'Australia best demographer', chasing inflated headline data for RW tabloid headlines....to wedge the centre; too easy.

Their desired outcomes, along with Tanton Network in the US sharing donors Koch Network which 'own' the GOP and inform Fox, is using current ageing voters for a permanent corrupt white Christian nationalist autocracy.

Globally on their obsessions with (declining) fertility, population control, women's bodies, 'other types', social - Darwinism, immigration and especially population growth, they are wrong.

Confirmed by many demographers, the UNPD has inflated fertility rate forecasts to reach a high end of century number and existential threat to 1% &/or white voters. Fact is fertility has and is declining much faster, hence they forecast mid century peak then decline....

See Bricker & Ibbitson (2019) 'Empty Planet:The Shock of Global Population Decline'

'For half a century, statisticians, pundits, and politicians have warned that a burgeoning planetary population will soon overwhelm the earth's resources. But a growing number of experts are sounding a different kind of alarm. Rather than growing exponentially, they argue, the global population is headed for a steep decline.'
Posted by Andras Smith, Thursday, 30 May 2024 1:02:34 AM
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Andras,

Global population is still growing at around 80 million people a year, just like in the 1960s. The growth rate has fallen, but the base is much larger. The world isn't going to run out of people any time soon. We and our domestic animals have gone from comprising perhaps 1% of land mammal biomass in the Paleolithic, when people probably just had dogs at best, to 96% now. The leading cause of extinctions is habitat loss due to appropriation for human purposes. We are pushing the other species off the planet and seriously encroaching on our life support systems.

http://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204892120

http://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html

Australia looks big on the map, but it is really a small to medium sized country wrapped around a big desert, much as ttbn has said. France can feed more people than all of Australia (multiply hectares of arable land by grain production per hectare). This is what our latest State of the Environment report has to say about population pressure here in Australia, where we have added around 7 million people since John Howard decided to triple the immigration rate.

http://soe.dcceew.gov.au/biodiversity/pressures/population

The people who are obsessing about fertility declines (no doubt partly due to higher densities as well as better contraception) are like someone who is morbidly obese, has lost a few kilos, and is now terrified of starvation.

Believe it or not, racism is not our most serious problem. Nor is a shortage of money for the immigration industry.
Posted by Divergence, Thursday, 30 May 2024 1:15:57 PM
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racism is not our most serious problem.
Divergence,
Agree, the real problem are the stupid people who perpetuate racial hatred at all costs !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 30 May 2024 5:20:40 PM
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If racism was made unprofitable the problem could be curbed ! Let the constituents decide on immigration instead of bureaucrats. Could be a valid election issue.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:09:19 AM
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Population is growing, mostly due to us, but slowing everyday....

Problem solved 'the global population is headed for a steep decline'.

Unless people wish to hurry it up for their own self gratification, but how?
Posted by Andras Smith, Friday, 31 May 2024 4:54:13 PM
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