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In 2023, we became lost in Neverland on climate change : Comments

By Tom Harris, published 27/12/2023

Rather than focus on preparing for the very real problems of a continually changing climate, our leaders are concentrated instead on the goal of 'stopping climate change.'

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Albanese would be quite happy to let the UN take over the running of Australia completely. He doesn't want the responsibility: just the title of Prime Minister and the big bucks.

Albanese takes no responsibility for his own conduct, nor that of his idiotic Ministers, like Bowen, Chalmers and Wong.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 December 2023 6:51:58 AM
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Disagree with most of this rant.

That said, if we would address climate change without tanking the economy? Then there is no other choice than nuclear. As MSR thorium and or as MSR nuclear waste burners very safely burning fuel we are paid annual millions to take.

The latter would be the world's cheapest electricity and carbon free into the bargain. Cables could carry this energy to an energy starved world for a far greater net return than we ever got for our rocks.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 28 December 2023 9:08:54 AM
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Serious conservative critics of climate and energy policymaking need to be sure of their ground if they wish to make an impact on the policy debate. Total dismissal of effects of carbon dioxide emissions on the physics of our atmosphere is unwise. Credibility and influence are not helped by denial. The science should be acknowledged, not rejected. The case for better policy remains.

The theory of how carbon dioxide influences heat transfer properties of Earth’s atmosphere is old and respectable (mid-1800s). Its build-up in the atmosphere through our burning fossil fuels is almost certainly influencing global temperatures. Several datasets of global average satellite temperature measurements have been available since around 1970. They agree pretty well. There’s a close to linear warming trend of 0.14 – 0.19 C degrees/decade, which is 1.4 – 1.9C/century. Also atmospheric carbon dioxide measurement has become routine. It’s rising at a rate consistent with our fossil fuel combustion. However those temperature rises are very small. They would probably not have been noticed without the most modern sensitive automated equipment.

So is manmade climate change a hoax? Or a scam? Is there really “no compelling scientific evidence of long-term trends in global mean temperatures or climate impacts that exceed the bounds of natural variability”? Are such allegations a sound basis for influencing climate/energy policy in advanced economies?.

I think not, despite those policies having serious defects that reflect their genesis in an atmosphere thick with exaggeration and scaremongering. The globe isn’t boiling. There’s no imminent catastrophe. The evidence is quite weak that climate change to date is causing extreme weather events (admittedly this is a complex aspect of climate science).

So, how can a sensible conservative influence the direction of climate policy?

The core strategy must be to recognise and reduce the influence that climate activists (and that includes scientists) are having through their tactic of inducing fear by exaggeration. Their plainly ridiculous claims like “global boiling” must be countered with easily presented and acceptable facts. Public terror is dangerous. Poor policy will inevitably result. Fear must be eliminated.
Posted by TomBie, Thursday, 28 December 2023 2:18:25 PM
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So is manmade climate change a hoax? Or a scam?
TomBie,
No & yes.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 28 December 2023 7:17:21 PM
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Unfortunately with people like Albo, Bowen & a few posters here who could not make change for a $10 bus ticket from a $20 note, with out a calculator, we actually have true believer idiots. While such idiots are elected to leadership we are bound for disaster.

Over 50,000 homes south of Brisbane lost power in a 168Km/H thunder storm Christmas night, due to tree damage to the grid. We along with about 30,000 others are still waiting for re connection, & are advised it will probably be Sunday before we are back on the grid. Meanwhile no phones or internet, & a card won't buy you anything at the shop. A few have had to borrow cash to buy fuel to get to a bank that still works.

I am getting on OK with my 10KVA 3 phase gen set. No electric cooking, air conditioning, & restricted light usage, but otherwise our fridge & freezers are cold, & TV & & many are using our starlink WiFi to make phone calls. Never had so many locals visiting so often.

It feels very much like the extended blackouts we will "enjoy" when idiot Bowen shuts a couple more coal fired power stations. Any falling for the net zero stupidity & plastic money should be here experiencing a foretaste of their future.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 29 December 2023 12:08:11 AM
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PS. It is costing me a bit less than $50 a day for fuel to supply the place. This compared to $85 a day for current mains supply. With about $5,000 spent on improving the system I should be to save over $1000 a year on electricity by generating my own.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 29 December 2023 12:15:41 AM
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