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Requiem for The Voice : Comments

By Chek Ling, published 27/10/2023

The First Peoples are put firmly back in their place, again: with a few of their middle-class noticeables, feted by the rearguard of White Australia, now preening as the new patrons for the 80% who had wanted a Yes outcome.

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Aboriginals are actually well off; more than most!

With Native title extending over forty percent of the Continent, and the latest advent of sea claims to add to the war chest, its well to remember, that almost twenty percent of that figure is Freehold title.

The freehold title extends predominantly over the most valuable portions of real estate on the East Coast, right on the beach fronts. They are not poor nor downtrodden.

They could sell these portions for development and help themselves with the proceeds towards better health and educational outcomes, and a renewed sense of personal achievement.

The alternative is to be used as fodder for idiocies promoted by poisonous indoctrination towards helplessness, by a naive bleeding heart exhibition of idiocy with content such as this article crying over a lost and unacceptable cause.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 27 October 2023 9:42:57 AM
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Like all Leftists, Chek heads for Leftist propaganda for 'proof' of his own propaganda.

Dutton had one vote like the rest of us. I don't take any notice of the man or what he says. I decided to vote NO without any help from anyone. So would have lots of other people who think for themselves.

The living silent majority didn't kill anyone.

David Marr! Another extreme Left activist.

Not sure what a horse making water (pissing) has to do with anything.

So Chek wants Australia to be something like China, with Teals, Greens and crackpot independents LEADING us. I reckon he and his kind will find the silent majority 'making water' all over them at the next election. Cost of living. Mass immigration. Soaring electricity prices. Soaring interest rates. Vandalism of the environment with windmills. Net Zero. Identity politics. Division by race. Dumbing down of education. Brainwashing kids. Normalising perversion.

The Voice was just a petty distraction from the real issues in Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 October 2023 9:56:17 AM
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As for all the mass killings supposedly perpetrated by people we don't know against other people we don’t know, the 'frontier wars' were a theory of historian Henry Reynolds, who used mathematical formulas, not evidence. There were no bodies (30,000 according to Reynolds) found with gunshot wounds. No medical records. No police records. No archaeological evidence to support the Frontier War theory.

Lots of money has been spent looking for remains with musket ball wounds or sword cuts. None were found where these 'wars' were said to have been fought.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 October 2023 10:08:38 AM
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"When intellectuals are unable to find enough contemporary grievances to suit their vision or agenda, they can mine the past for harm inflicted by some on others. By conceiving of those involved in the past as members of intertemporal abstractions, the intelligentsia can polarize contemporary descendants of those involved in past acts. The kind of society to which that leads is one in which a new born baby enters the world supplied with prepackaged grievances against other babies born on the same day". (Thomas Sowell, 'Intellectuals and Society').
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 October 2023 10:13:39 AM
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It's a bit of a self-serving article that is light on the facts. What was ignored is that this was a monumental cock up by a PM more interested in virtue signalling than implementing useful policy. It was so badly implemented and sold to the public that it probably would have failed even if Dutton had not opposed it.

Albozo's blunders were as follows:
* Not attempting to moderate the voice scope
* Rejecting Dutton's offer to compromise (making the voice partisan)
* Making the "question" non-specific and open-ended.
* Refusing to define the scope and limits of the voice
* lying to the public about the risks
* Heavily biasing the voting by subsidizing the yes vote but not the no vote

At this point, the voters smelt a rat and Albozo lost their trust and should have cancelled the $400m doomed referendum.

P.S. Only 59% of polled indigenous supported the voice.

Australia didn't reject Aboriginals, they rejected Albozo's bait and switch.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 27 October 2023 12:47:13 PM
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Two things, those that committed those terrible atrocities in our distant past need to be the ones to pay for them.

Other than that, the British Crown may be asked to repent and reconciliate. They decided to claim it and use it as a bastard penal colony. And transported those with NO VOICE to the other of the world, separating them from family, friends and traditional homeland!

And given that is so, there has to be even greater generational trauma for that cadre!

No one alive today in Australia can be asked for compensation. And those who are 25% white or more, should also bear some generational shame, if that's the path our leaders want us to follow?

And makes a nonsense of the whole proposal.

Simply put, a treaty should be sought and terms and condition writ in stone. In a series of small incremental steps all can live with. The goal being to put aside the past and consider it a foreign country none can ever return to!

We are one, but we are many and from all the lands on earth we come! We as Australians need to set aside the highly flawed concept called the voice and focus on all that unites all Australians, old and new!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 27 October 2023 12:49:13 PM
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